V-Kool

March 19, 2008

I thought Hi-lite needed to be edge sealed also.
I'm pretty sure HO, Geoshield, Madico, and Johnson sputter the ceramic onto the film.

TiN (titanium nitride) is a ceramic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_nitride

May be this is some language barrier. For example You call CREMNIUM as SILICONE, but ladies make b**bs from SILICONE

In russian CERAMIC - material for mugs and pots.

But anycase this material - let's call it';s CERAMIC seems used like target, but telling again - I am not storng in technology.

Two of 4 mentioned teams - seems I know the source and not sure any sputerring there, IMHO!!!!

Two other

But - is it really important??? Who, how and where? You like it or not. Whatever it is cotaed by sprayer... IMHO

Yes, it's a language thing.

Ceramic is a group of materials with similar properties.

Just like both steel and gold are metals, TiN and the stuff your toilet is made from are both ceramics.

LEO'n'DARTZ · March 20, 2008

I thought Hi-lite needed to be edge sealed also.
I'm pretty sure HO, Geoshield, Madico, and Johnson sputter the ceramic onto the film.

TiN (titanium nitride) is a ceramic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_nitride

May be this is some language barrier. For example You call CREMNIUM as SILICONE, but ladies make b**bs from SILICONE

In russian CERAMIC - material for mugs and pots.

But anycase this material - let's call it';s CERAMIC seems used like target, but telling again - I am not storng in technology.

Two of 4 mentioned teams - seems I know the source and not sure any sputerring there, IMHO!!!!

Two other

But - is it really important??? Who, how and where? You like it or not. Whatever it is cotaed by sprayer... IMHO

Yes, it's a language thing.

Ceramic is a group of materials with similar properties.

Just like both steel and gold are metals, TiN and the stuff your toilet is made from are both ceramics.

TiN - in russian called quite different than ceramic, will check later as we have Chemistry Dr. in our team stuff :lol2

LEO'n'DARTZ · March 20, 2008

Thanks for everything guys, I think I have enough information to make an informed decision.
In all the the years I've been in this industry it's simply amazing.

In the 70's, = Liquid tint, Only Llumar and 3m most popular, application on back glass in strips. (old Maxima was done in 13 1.5" strip because on short curve ) Fuel 1.00 per gallon

Silver coated window films were made in Riga, Latvian Soviet SOcialist Republic, USSR at 60-th. It was films with no glue, and was made on military factory. But.... people borrowed them and used on windows. I am not so old, but remeber early 70-th and these films. No idea if people tinted car - as those time we practyically have NO PRIVATE cars. But, for example, KGB or commy leaders cars was tinted. In my upcoming sample album will be 40 years old window film...

In the 80's = much of the same as the 70's but more competition, DTI now Solar-Gard, ITD now FTI which had just shut down. Tinting was still being done with strips. Not very many people even knew about the heat gun. Putting the car out in the sun to dry stubborn fingers. There was no such thing as stretching film. Even some doors needed to be done in two pieces because of nasty curve. And Tintdude was probable still in grade school if not pampers. Fuel 2.00 per gallon

And former DTI president bought FTI

In the 90's = Technology and techniques moving at a rapid pace. The computer and internet spreading like wildfire. Only the rich can afford the latest laptops. Vacuum Depositing, Sputtering intorduced into the film industry. Metallized products becoming more and more visible on cars not just buildings. The heat gun, wet shrinking, dry shrinking was just being found out. More competition in the world of Laminators and Coators, Johnson Window films, Maddico, Protect-Gard and so-on. One piece back glass was introduced to the world. Fuel 3.00 per gallon

The 2000's = Manufacturers trying to figure out how to raise prices. Dealers and Distributors trying to figure out how to raise prices. Loyalty is a thing of the past. Marketing and stragtegies are the excuses for changing hands and less loyalty. The introduction of IR, Ceramic films. The Asian Market is competing on US soil. US factories dealing with Asian manufacturers for higher margins. The introduction of the plotting machine. Tinting windows is now on a faster pace. Fuel 4.00 per gallon.

US factories dealing with Asian manufacturers for higher margins. - It wasn't me told that

To all the tinters of the world. Tinting will always be and in my opinion and those who know that have done it, "IS AN ART" I used to call my self MASTER OF THE ART. Then I got married and had kids.

avaxis · June 26, 2008

is there anything in the market that compares to VK75?

VLT 77%

TSER 45%

regulations here require 70% VLT, factor in 2-3% for the glass itself, one would probably need a tint with 75% VLT to be safe. so far I've looked at offerings by Suntek, Global, Solar Gard, Madico, LLumar, and nothing comes close. Did I miss anything?

June 26, 2008

Huper Optik Acht 77% VLT 46% TSER.

Global has a new IR80 out with 32% TSER.

Solar Gard Ultra Performance 75% with TSER of 40%.

LLumar has AIR75 with 39% TSER. They also have PP70AG with similar heat rejection.

Now keep in mind some of these films shouldn't be installed near salt water because they "could" corrode.

June 30, 2008

Huper Optik Acht 77% VLT 46% TSER.
Global has a new IR80 out with 32% TSER.

Solar Gard Ultra Performance 75% with TSER of 40%.

LLumar has AIR75 with 39% TSER. They also have PP70AG with similar heat rejection.

Now keep in mind some of these films shouldn't be installed near salt water because they "could" corrode.

.....and..

Solar Gard LX 70 ( VLT 72 % and TSER 53 %)

SunTek NSN 70 ( VLT 70% and TSER 45 % )