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It doesn't get any more general than this but... how do YOU define "good"?

As a film supplier I talk with people all over the country and hear personal opinions about certain manufacturers or suppliers having a (simply stated) "good" or "bad" film. It seems strange though that as many people are using those same adjectives to describe a film, each person really values a film for many different reasons. One installer may believe a film to be good for the same reason another installer would believe it to be bad. So I want to know, in your opinion, what really makes a "good" film?

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A good film is one which works for you as an installer! That's ALL!!! I never use crap, but I do use what I'm confident will make me happy as an installer and make my customers happy... :cool

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It doesn't get any more general than this but... how do YOU define "good"?

As a film supplier I talk with people all over the country and hear personal opinions about certain manufacturers or suppliers having a (simply stated) "good" or "bad" film. It seems strange though that as many people are using those same adjectives to describe a film, each person really values a film for many different reasons. One installer may believe a film to be good for the same reason another installer would believe it to be bad. So I want to know, in your opinion, what really makes a "good" film?

Color stable, strong hard coat, easy to shrink/work with, complimenting color, durable for 5 plus years.

That's all :cool

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When I use the phrase "good film", I think its a general statement that applies to not only the film but the company/rep I am getting it from. With that being said I will give you the $10 answer.

A good film in my professioinal opinion is one that first off is made of good raw material, is mfg in a fashion that makes for it to be installer friendly (i.e. shrink, tack, and film life) along with a reasonable warranty.

A good Company/Rep in my opinion is one that is looking at helping you run your business like it was their own. For example, I believe a rep should understand your needs. Not two businesses are the same. So if they can understand your market, needs, and desires, then they can help you achieve those with the things they control. This would include pricing, marketing, payment types ect. To many reps out there are only worried about selling the film today, and dont worry about selling them film tomorrow.

So, when I generally say good film, I am basically making the statement about the whole experience. I was a gun ho LuLu man until 2007. Once I got to work with a lot of other films, understood MFG, prices and experienced how other reps delt with there customers via attention and price gouging. After seeing all this and looking back, i could have been making a lot more money, getting a product that i would have been happy with and got the same if not better service. And saying getting better service then what I had from Tommy S. is going out on the limb, but what i can tell you is there are guys out there like VTD that will treat you like family.

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When I use the phrase "good film", I think its a general statement that applies to not only the film but the company/rep I am getting it from. With that being said I will give you the $10 answer.

A good film in my professioinal opinion is one that first off is made of good raw material, is mfg in a fashion that makes for it to be installer friendly (i.e. shrink, tack, and film life) along with a reasonable warranty.

A good Company/Rep in my opinion is one that is looking at helping you run your business like it was their own. For example, I believe a rep should understand your needs. Not two businesses are the same. So if they can understand your market, needs, and desires, then they can help you achieve those with the things they control. This would include pricing, marketing, payment types ect. To many reps out there are only worried about selling the film today, and dont worry about selling them film tomorrow.

So, when I generally say good film, I am basically making the statement about the whole experience. I was a gun ho LuLu man until 2007. Once I got to work with a lot of other films, understood MFG, prices and experienced how other reps delt with there customers via attention and price gouging. After seeing all this and looking back, i could have been making a lot more money, getting a product that i would have been happy with and got the same if not better service. And saying getting better service then what I had from Tommy S. is going out on the limb, but what i can tell you is there are guys out there like VTD that will treat you like family.

I'll give you $20 for that answer!! :cool

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For me good film is film that gives me no headaches, Meaning it is shipped on time,delivered on time, not mangled in some way,what I ordered,how I ordered, And has no surprises when installing or working with it. That may seem like a easy task to accomplish, but for the past year or so,The "surprises" seem to be showing up more and more. As far as film quality , color stability etc etc.... Fortunately i live in a moderate climate and for the most part film will not fail all that fast no matter what it is. I think with the way things are going in the industry, the shop owner should plan for the possibility that the Manny and film they are using now, As great as some mannys tell them it is, will not be around in 5-7 years. Leaving the installer holding the bag for any warranty issues that come up

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Color stable, strong hard coat, easy to shrink/work with, complimenting color, durable for 5 plus years.

That's all :chin

That doesn't seem like too much to ask for. Just to clarify, when you say "color stable," do you mean that it wont fade or that it just won't turn purple?

For me good film is film that gives me no headaches, Meaning it is shipped on time,delivered on time, not mangled in some way,what I ordered,how I ordered, And has no surprises when installing or working with it. That may seem like a easy task to accomplish, but for the past year or so,The "surprises" seem to be showing up more and more. As far as film quality , color stability etc etc.... Fortunately i live in a moderate climate and for the most part film will not fail all that fast no matter what it is. I think with the way things are going in the industry, the shop owner should plan for the possibility that the Manny and film they are using now, As great as some mannys tell them it is, will not be around in 5-7 years. Leaving the installer holding the bag for any warranty issues that come up

It seems like most installers really don't expect a film to last longer than 5-7 years even if it is classified as "Lifetime" film. Its almost like there is an unwritten code for how long a film is expected to last compared to its stated lifespan: "Lifetime" = 5-7 years; "5 years" = 3 years; "3 years" = 18 months.

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as far as auto films go here in Florida , you hit the nail on the head VTD , and thats how i explain it to custys . FG is a whole different animal ...

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