Jump to content

wax before ppf?

swong46
 Share

Recommended Posts

Guest kccartint

Guest kccartint

Posted
Posted
Depends on the brand of PPF. We use to claybar before install when I worked for DC. At Enpro we wax before because the adhesive on our product is so aggressive. We want to protect the finish of the car for removal.

If your talking about VS then you don't know what aggressive is. :lol6 Stuck today and peeled tomorrow. :lol2 Stuff is just shy of cling on.

Anyways....

Always strip wax. Most films will lay fine with wax applied but many will have adhesion problems later. You can prevent possible headaches by striping wax ahead of time. I have tried it both ways with them all. They always stay put with the wax removed. Its a 50/50 with wax applied. Often times they are fine but the ones that have issues have always been waxed.

You obviously have not used them in the last 2 months since the adhesive has changed. Its now a 3m adhesive. You might want to check it out. Also, I have used and or tested with every other film on the market except Nano Fusion. So I think I would know what properties an aggressive adhesive is. :lol6

I have and not impressed. :beer

Not sure wether to laugh or feel sorry for you. Selling VS is like being a Yugo dealer. Sure...you may sell a few but at the end of the day its nothing but warranty problems. :lol6

Link to comment
Share on other sites
SuperSetKing

SuperSetKing

Posted
Posted
Depends on the brand of PPF. We use to claybar before install when I worked for DC. At Enpro we wax before because the adhesive on our product is so aggressive. We want to protect the finish of the car for removal.

If your talking about VS then you don't know what aggressive is. :lol Stuck today and peeled tomorrow. :lol2 Stuff is just shy of cling on.

Anyways....

Always strip wax. Most films will lay fine with wax applied but many will have adhesion problems later. You can prevent possible headaches by striping wax ahead of time. I have tried it both ways with them all. They always stay put with the wax removed. Its a 50/50 with wax applied. Often times they are fine but the ones that have issues have always been waxed.

You obviously have not used them in the last 2 months since the adhesive has changed. Its now a 3m adhesive. You might want to check it out. Also, I have used and or tested with every other film on the market except Nano Fusion. So I think I would know what properties an aggressive adhesive is. :lol

I have and not impressed. :nope

Not sure wether to laugh or feel sorry for you. Selling VS is like being a Yugo dealer. Sure...you may sell a few but at the end of the day its nothing but warranty problems. :lol

:spit Your intitled to your opinion. I sell 100's of kits a month and pallets of rolls to our dealers. You know how many warranty claims we deal with? None.... Once in a blue moon we will get an installer that is doing an exotic with a dark color and the film was from the end of a roll. Maybe your installation style doesnt work with the film. Maybe you prep and the way you handle the film doesnt go along with the film. I am not sure. You havnt really stated anything. What I do know is we have been in business for 30 years. We wouldnt carry a product that was not suitible to put our FirstCut name with. So if the product is as bad as you claim, then why is our and our dealers experience so much different then yours? You can riddle this thread with your smileys, or you can stop and put together all the variables that are causing you so many problems and address them. Maybe you will learn somthing. I would say I can learn somthing from you but until you address your point along with experinces then I have nothing to go by but smart ass responses. :spit

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest @middlemax

Guest @middlemax

Posted
Posted
On 12/7/2010 at 11:26 AM, SuperSetKing said:

:spit Your intitled to your opinion. I sell 100's of kits a month and pallets of rolls to our dealers. You know how many warranty claims we deal with? None.... Once in a blue moon we will get an installer that is doing an exotic with a dark color and the film was from the end of a roll. Maybe your installation style doesnt work with the film. Maybe you prep and the way you handle the film doesnt go along with the film. I am not sure. You havnt really stated anything. What I do know is we have been in business for 30 years. We wouldnt carry a product that was not suitible to put our FirstCut name with. So if the product is as bad as you claim, then why is our and our dealers experience so much different then yours? You can riddle this thread with your smileys, or you can stop and put together all the variables that are causing you so many problems and address them. Maybe you will learn somthing. I would say I can learn somthing from you but until you address your point along with experinces then I have nothing to go by but smart ass responses. :spit

Damn you just shut that down. Well done haha

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing
  •   Sponsored by
    tintwiz

    auto-precut.com

    signwarehouse

    martinmetalwork.com

    tinttek

    filmvinyldesigns

    ride wrap

    Conco

    Lexen

  • Activity Stream

    1. 7

      Removable rigid window tint sheets - WTF?

      I created an account just to respond here. I'm not a "tinter" or whatever yall may call yourselves but I came across this product and thought that it looked pretty cool and something I could do myself. I ordered from Lazeway and spent like $150 for two packages. The product is from China although they claim all this America stuff on the website. All i received was two simple rolls of tint, nothing special. I was totally scammed and now I'm looking all over the internet for anyone talking about this product to let them know. Dont buy from them.
      Mario L in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    2. 7

      Air80 vs Stratos70 Windshield

      Since there is no limit of darkness on the top strip, I have wanted to tint it. But I would go very dark, to help with sun glare in the evening.
      mikenot in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    3. 7

      Air80 vs Stratos70 Windshield

      Yeah that’s a very fair point to a degree I’m probably overthinking it. I don’t see really significant glare reduction until you get into much darker tint. Like you I think visibility for me is more important living in the country. I’ll probably see what the specs list the differences between 70% and 80% and then double check with the tinter as to what they recommend. Likely will end up with 70% with a strip along the top. Air80 seems to be much more popular, not sure if it’s due to performance or the difference in cost being so much more for the stratos. thank you
      joshiemcduck in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    4. 0

      Process

      Hey guys - so I work for a vinyl graphics company that is adding window tinting to their repertoire and I had a question about your guys' ideal process. I have my plotter set up and my window tinting software ready to go, but I am completely ignorant about the way that tint installers prefer that things be cut. Currently, I will plot/weed the tint and cut the backing away as much as I dare before handing it over to the installer. I was thinking that the installer would prefer the tint to be cut to shape which I believe I can achieve with the perf cut on my plotter. Is that the typical process or should I not be worried so much about it being cut to exact shape?
      DonMeads in Plotters and Cutting Systems
    5. 7

      Air80 vs Stratos70 Windshield

      Im in TX, plenty of of what you mentioned. While I do sit higher in an SUV, glare reduction is not improved much at all with what I have. My 80% is almost clear, not dark at all. With all tint, it adds a bit of reflectivity from the outside, which I notice makes it slightly harder to see from the outside looking in, in the form of a glare not darkness. At the end of the day, it's not permanent, it's only money!
      mikenot in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    6. 0

      PPF installer for hire in SoCAL

      Hello. My name is Adrian i have good experience with paint protection film and i just moved to California, Irvine, i'm open to travel one hour away for the right job. You can contact me at 5717330693
      adrianpaun in Classifieds • Employment • Marketplace
    7. 11

      Boat window tinting tips

      or "bust out another thousand"
      TintDude in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    8. 11

      Boat window tinting tips

      Best tip would be, “Sorry, no boats”.
      pbalentine in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    9. 11

      Boat window tinting tips

      The answer is to not heat that area too much so that you leave some slack in the film for when you get it to the inside. Also cut your pattern a little large so that you can trim a thread off the edges after shrinking to not have a furled edge. After you do a few of those you'll figure out how much to leave/trim to not have any light gaps. Also I'll leave a hardcard wrapped in a microfiber in the bottom overnight to collect water and keep pressure on the film while it dries. Sometimes you can take the top rail off the glass if the jackwagon boat builder didn't put too much pressure on the glass package when it was installed. If you pull the rail off of a tight package it's a pita to get back on, looking like it could crack the whole time. Congrats on getting it done. I've seen plenty that couldn't, which is why I price them like I do.
      Dano in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    10. 11

      Boat window tinting tips

      Thx everyone for the tips the install went fine, however i did run into a new problem on the main curve of the glass from thr outside the tint would lay flat on the big curve but when applying it seemed like there was too much tension and it would not stay down i ended up heating it up and flattening down but some of that area got overheated and warped a little, if you know how to tackle this problem please help me thank you!
      Lauty in Window Tinting - General Discussion
×
×
  • Create New...