Anyone still use ASWF excel?

[TintWizard]

Yes agreed . I thought you meant Llumar as a whole based on using Jt

[vteckid]

I didnt think i would get this many replys! Apreciate the feed back. Yes ive had lots of adhesive failure with the retro, and a bit with the excel. I did notice that when they raised their prices almost two years ago, they explained it was because they were using a better scratch coat and all around better raw materials now.

Despite all the negatives, i feel i have to say that ive tried half a dozen films in the past 2-3 months, and the excel has by far the best color. A true charcoal, truely NON-REFLECTIVE, not green, not brown, not orange, not blue, or shiny, just a true charcoal black both looking inside and on the outside of the cars. It also shrinks great, not as good as the EWF charcoal 1.2(qdp) but still very good. I wish they had a better adhesive, then the excel would really be of the top films, maybe they will fix or change their source of adhesive in the coming years.

[Dr chop]

Yeah, not pissed at anyone here. Just myself for ever trying anything other than what I use now, twenty years with almost no redo work and I listen to a song and dance from ASWF and bam!, about twenty redo jobs in a year and a half. Just glad I barely used it at all. Performer was their higher end product both Impulse and Performer purple in less than a year. SCR was falling off some in a few months. I am gonna stay with my brand from now on, just wanted to try and save a few people some grief. With all the technology in this world, I find it so hard to believe there is so many crappy films out there. Then again, they wouldn't be crappy if people stopped buying from them. I run a high end tint shop where people don't mind paying a little more, so therefore, I don't mind paying good money for a good tint.

[Dr chop]

i used to use and yes i've had to use llumar jt in the past and that was purple right out of the box.

Using jt Llumar was a mistake . A greater mistake is judging Llumar as a whole based on this line of tint. Since your from Canada I feel that I can speak on the suppliers behalf when I say that the only reason they carried Jt is to cater to the lower , budget minded tinter and end user customer. That tint was never meant to compare or hold up like the better constructed , regular tint they sell , manufacture . It's also why it didn't come with a good warranty . They never passed it off as a good end tint , I think they realized their mistake in carrying it in the first place and is why they no longer cater to the budget minded tint buyer.

Llumar ATR has been a fantastic tint over the years that as been proven over time . I've been able to track cars over many years that are not garage parked over with very very little colour fading change and never delaminating / peeling issues .

I'm not plugging or promoting this particular tint , just sharing my personal experience with it . I'm just saying not to judge a company by one particular line of tint and wanted to educate / clarify on JT line when it comes to judging Llumar .

ATR is a great film and so is the CTX. I don't know why they did that Jet thing for a little bit, that was entry level tint which I never tried because I don't chase the cheap clientele.

[TintWizard]

ATR is a great film and so is the CTX. I don't know why they did that Jet thing for a little bit, that was entry level tint which I never tried because I don't chase the cheap clientele.

It was a dual mistake on their end IMO. Jt didn't make a new potential user of Llumar want to use the company , regulars of Llumar had no use of downgrading the quality they were use to for the sake of a few $$ per car. I believe that's why it was a flop and a mistake carrying it in the first place

[jmedina613]

Im using excel in 2017. Dont know why everyone hates on it. Have 15% on my vehicle for the past year and a half, lasted through our heat and humidity and still looks like it did when I installed it.

[fvshaggy]

Sorry to bump perhaps a dead topic but is this film any good. My local installer uses this and quoted 310 for all windows including the front for $310 It sounds like he uses the Excel IRP line.  They said it was a Nano particle film and that is the only one that I could find from this brand.