EWF True Smoke or Classic Black

[Tint4Food]

Classic Black is reboxed QDP, thats why its color stable.  Great film by the way.

[Guest temonunez26]

So I just installed Classic Black 1.2 20% on my focus... the true black 20%turned brown after 2 years. The classic black has a charcoal tone the clarity is good super easy to work with. Im actually happy with the aesthetics and ill post some pix later. I was concerned cuss someone said they had gotten one that looked brown out the box but Im glad to report I didnt have that problem. Crossing fingers it wont turn brown or purple.

[Ocala]

So I just installed Classic Black 1.2 20% on my focus... the true black 20%turned brown after 2 years. The classic black has a charcoal tone the clarity is good super easy to work with. Im actually happy with the aesthetics and ill post some pix later. I was concerned cuss someone said they had gotten one that looked brown out the box but Im glad to report I didnt have that problem. Crossing fingers it wont turn brown or purple.

I believe you might be confusing your films. In another thread Howard had verified that the Classic Black is a 1.5m film, not 1.2. 

[Guest temonunez26]

Kid you not the site list it as 1.2 I know theres also 1.5

[Ocala]

The site lists a Classic Charcoal 1.2 and 1.5 but not a Classic "Black" 1.2. Just saying! 

[Lock]

Classic Black is reboxed QDP, thats why its color stable.  Great film by the way.

I believe you're referring to classic charcoal. Classic black, while a good film, isn't QDP. Classic black is made unique to EWF. I'm sure Howard will correct me if I'm wrong.

Kid you not the site list it as 1.2 I know theres also 1.5

It is 1.2 but it has nothing to do with the thickness of the film. The actual film thickness is 1.5

[Guest temonunez26]

Oh ok....I wonder why 1.2

[Ocala]

So Lock is saying that the 1.2 has nothing to do with the thickness? I remember using the Global film "which is the same as the EWF charcoal" back around 2007-2009 and there was the QD which was a 1m film and then the QDP which was a 1.2m film. The QDP wasn't as thin I guess the reason why they added the "P" for plus. I have never used the Classic Black, but from what I read on another thread was that it is considered a 1.5m film that came right from Howard's post. 

[EWF]

There was a time (7+ years ago) when our NR 2 Ply Films were 1.2M thick.   For production efficiencies, it started making more sense to run everything as a 1.5.  We have so many legacy customers that order films as 1.2 that we did not want to create a train wreck of confusion, so the names have held.

 

NR Classic Charcoal & Classic Black are both 1.5M thick.

 

Sincere apologies for the confusion.

 

-Howard

[jh812]

So I just installed Classic Black 1.2 20% on my focus... the true black 20%turned brown after 2 years. The classic black has a charcoal tone the clarity is good super easy to work with. Im actually happy with the aesthetics and ill post some pix later. I was concerned cuss someone said they had gotten one that looked brown out the box but Im glad to report I didnt have that problem. Crossing fingers it wont turn brown or purple.

I thought the classic black had a brownish look to it. I think I used one roll and switched back to the classic charcoal hp. The hp does not have any coloring to it brown, blue, green, etc.