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2 hours ago, WearTheFoxHat said:
And anyone interested in installing this film...
I had a short chat with with a fellow at Decorative films and I mentioned this thread.
I'll paraphase a bit:
He mentioned that the film is Triacetate which ABSORBS water. "Normal " install methods contribute to absorption /swelling of the film so as it dries it shrinks back to its original size which comes at the cost of the film retreating from the edges or by lifting.
If you are flooding the film by spraying a ton of slip on the naked glass to do a strip and flip from one pane to another and then spraying the adhesive side while the liner is pulled. All that water holding your film on the glass is absorbing into the film as it sits on the glass.
Best case is to FULLY read the install instructions. Keep the slip to a minimum . Do a two man Spray and pray.(One sucker holds film in the air and the other sprays him in the face...sorry sprays the adhesive side while pulling liner) Knock down the film HARD like you are installing security film.
Have fun out there like these guys do...
The film scratched so easily....I have never seen a film that scratched this bad. We call them and they say to use a paper towel in front but if you do that...so much water is left behide. Not a job I will ever take on again due to the film. Never had a job that was all fuck because of the film.
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11 hours ago, lexen said:
we did test with our Lexen carbon film VS LLumar ATC VS SunTek Carbon.
our film rejects the most heat!
SunTek Carbon seems like normal Dyed film, but they call it Carbon?
Because ATC is dyed film and they have almost same terrible heat rejection. because it is dyed film.
All film are dye....there are no automotive window film that is not.
- ErieTint and pbalentine
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1 hour ago, jh812 said:
That's odd. What the hell they do with the 24's then?
It also come in 20” in 40, 50, & 60 vlt. 24” is available if there a chop down...some dealer chop it down to 38/22 and purchase the whole 60”
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Went from 0 - 100 in 3 months with 3M...Come to Houston and we can train you to be very efficient in Crystalline for a small fee. Use to take us a whole day to tint 1 car in Crystalline and now we can do it faster than a carbon film because we can shrink the film in 2 min.
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5 hours ago, quality tintz said:
Does reverse help it come out clean???
not for mobile....you need to do reverse in a control area.
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it is on......
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That 3M crystalline on a BMW or Audi....it is the only film that will do that.
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I’m so confused 😐
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3 hours ago, blackoutauto said:
HOW THE HECK LOL how do u have space for that glass? where do u store it? @Midtown Houston
Back in the box when done and store vertically...We are one of the top shop for tesla in houston....The Houston location delivers to 3 state and we had to be efficient at doing tesla...i might buy the windshield next... look us up on Instagram at midtownmotortrends and autofilmspecialists
on ppf we can do a whole quality full front and crystalline in 2 hrs....
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On 3/6/2018 at 8:43 PM, Ryker said:
Did one today. Popped the top and cut the sweep loose. Easy Peasey
This and it is easy
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3mhave a hugh selection, llumar have good selection. We maily use 3M deco film. We own digital plotter that range from 30k to 150k each. When we were looking to buy a digital printer that can print white ink, it was a million dollar for 1 printer and was advised that printing white is difficult. That is why deco film is expensive. Decorate dfilm.com sell 3M film for 40% more than what I get it for from 3M. They are charging alot knowing that most don’t do much in deco film.
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1 hour ago, WearTheFoxHat said:
Good to see you figured it out.
I would have encouraged less slip too.
If anyone out there is called upon to install this. Be 100% sure of the orientation of the film install. Use the test card to ensure ALL locations for install will work with the monitor on the wall.
Due to the differences in orientation on polarized filters on different monitors and various laptops in use in the "cloaked" room it may or may not work. Encourage the users of the film to confirm it works on the laptops brought into the room BEFORE the "top secret" info is displayed to the rest of the office.
This vid may help to understand how the polarized filters work.
The orientation is the easy part...bid it right is most important because you will have to replace some film due to installation error. This film will break and tear very easily. We pulled the liner and it tear. We use a blow dryer to remove the water from the edge and to help remove moisture on the film....it do not like much water and will curle up if there too much.
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We started off carry Solargard HP and was selling film from $150-$185. We then switch to Suntek Carbon and CXP and was sell fillm $150-$265. All these years while doing these 2 film, we have alot of customer mostly Toyota, lexus and bmw asking for 3M. We tell them that we don’t carry that film and try to convert them over to Suntek. Some would say yes but most leave and go somewhere else. So in 2010 I decided to learn more about 3M and stock the film. That was the best business move I made till this day. We was doing 10-12k with Suntek a month in tint to now doing well over 40k just in 3M Crystalline a month. I post of pictures of very nice cars geeting Crystalline but in fact...most of our crystalline sale are to Toyota and Lexus. 98% of our tint are all new vehicles compare to not carrying 3M. The shop have tranform from just wanting to work on car to now being the go to shop for all quality and high end work because of 3M. We hardly have to sell Crystalline, the consumer are asking for it and scheduling appointment all day. We do 1k plus tint on a car and do 4-6 a day. I would recommend carrying 3M if you are doing retail.
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16 minutes ago, Stewy said:
Damn Mike! Thats almost 300k. Good shit bro!
Not that much...there was only 720 sq ft of Casper and the rest was dual cloud which we got normal price for.
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34 minutes ago, blackoutauto said:
very nice install!!!
Howmuch did you charge for the job and can i ask you what you had to do differently to make it work
Not enough...$95 a sq ft ...3k sq ft with a combo of this film and dual cloud deco film. Use less soap, aim right, one pass squeeze, just thinking outside the box.
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7 hours ago, drtint said:
https://www.decorativefilm.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/PF001-801_Spec.pdf
found this, maybe it will help. Haven’t installed any of this material sounds like a learning curve with the orientation of the material. Good luck
Finally figured it out after wasting 3k worth of material...this material is almost $50 per sq ft...
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I am needing advice on this film. I have a pretty big job with this film and having trouble laying big pieces. The size of the glass is 48” x 103” and I cannot get it to lay down without finger. The glass is bending due to being frameless so that is why I am thinking it won’t lay without finger. I also lower my solution with a drop of dawn and it still dont work. It will stick no problem on smaller size glass 48” x 36”....advice please...maybe it won’t stick due to thickness.
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I just purchase the back glass to the model 3 for $500 so I can have the film preshrink....hopefully it will make us more efficient.....We do a lot of Tesla....I mean a lot.
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Say the word ceramic and most consumer will pay $300 plus for a carbon film. Do your research and educate yourself before buying.
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