Matteo

very interesting. I'd like to know too.
Can I ask you what kind of paper you used in that photo to create the pattern? Do you have some link where I can find it?

That's good question. 

I Wanna know the same, maybe some experience from Jeff from Xpel. 

can it make small bubbles of moisture / water disappear after installation?

Hello,

I need and info. We need to make a template for a special car (one off). We need to know which material we can use in order to create a pattern. Off corse we cannot use regular PPF to create the pattern.  (too expensive). I saw some video on youtube, do you know which material is that (pic) ? Looks like PPF but lighter

Thanks 

On 30/11/2018 at 9:16 PM, drtint said:

No compressor necessary. Prior to install, you need to visualize the air movement and impact zone as that particular vehicle would be moving down the road (as a wind tunnel demonstration) and what will be the affects. That particular install was plotted and prolly not setting for a couple days afterwards. Sometimes you have to bulk install as you would a tint on a vehicle without software patterns. Plotters are amazing but not always the best way to go.

Cheers

"prolly not setting for a couple days afterwards" that could be a cause. Always wait a couple of day after the installation before delivery.

14 hours ago, Todd @ Interwest said:

You can register for a Test Drive Demo version of the 3M Pattern and Solutions Center software that will allow you 30 Free Cuts.  As a 3M PPF user the full unlimited version is Free.  Use the link below and go to the registration tab.  After you register you can use the same link and use the Download tab to install the software.  Feel free to contact me directly and I am more than happy to help!

 

https://patterns.3m.com/cutx/

 

Thank you,

 

Todd Bergman

Interwest Distribution

1-800-232-8468

todd@interwestdc.com

 

I tried but when I try to log in I get this error (pic). 

I tried to contact 3M but nobody answered

24 minutes ago, XPEL Jeff said:

Dirt and brake dust can only get underneath the film if it has already lifted.  This is a simple case of the installer leaving the film edge on a less than ideal surface adn/or not securing edges completely before delivery.

 

Film does not do well when left on a tight radius, therefore installers should do all they can to leave the ends on a flatter surface.

 

You should always use an air compressor on all edges before sending the car on its way, as it will reveal many areas that are not adhered as well as you thought they were.  Once you have exposed these areas, you can use adhesion promotors like XPEL Surface Prep to increase the adhesion, but often it just needs a little moisture removed.

Thanks Jeff for the answer ! 

So the main point is : leave the ends on a flatter surface !

We use air compressor on all edges before sending the car on its way. After that, if we found a "lifted part" it's ok to heated the part with hairdryer or heatgun ?

Anyway, in the case of the picture, the only solution is to replace the panel ? I think is impossible to clean that film...

Thanks

15 hours ago, blackoutauto said:

i've seen these issues occur in some brands of film not because it wasn't post heated but the glue would stay on the car and the film itself separates from the glue.  Kinda like delamination.

Hi, thanks for the reply.

I know the "delamination" problem. This is not a delamination, the PPF just comes off in that point and I want to understand why. 

In order to avoid that problem, do you suggest to heated the edge, the corner and the areo-parts after the installation of the PPF? 

Thanks

2 minutes ago, PRatx said:

what film was used? also the best way on bigger projects is to keep the car overnight , that way you can have a second look for this areas that have tendency to open and address it before delivery.

you can do some proactive steps to prevent opening: good prep , de-grease , use some adhesive promoter, heat gun the edges, steam edges, on some film alcohol help to increase bonding.

 

I don't know what film was used. I only saw the car and I wondered why it happened.
I want to understand how to avoid the problem;)

7 minutes ago, Bham said:

I am not a PPF expert but seeing as how the vents on cars like that are actually functional and not just for looks, that seem to be a combination of brake dust and road grime getting caught up in the PPF over time.  Not real sure there is much you can do about that.  The brake dust particles are so fine and dark, I would think this is going to happen on all cars like this that are driven often.  Just my    and patiently waiting on the pro answers to this one.  

Thanks for the reply! I want to understand why the PPF comes off in that point and how to avoid this kind of problem. It never happened to us but I do not want to deliver a car that presents a problem like this after 2 months! Thanks

Hi guys 

this weekend I was at a car meeting and I saw a Ferrari F12 TDF in in these conditions (pic Attached).

Now, it's not the first time that I see this kind of problem with PPF, especially in some areas like this one. Do you know what is the cause of this problem (why the PPF comes off in that point) ?? How can you be 100% sure before delivering the car? Thanks

On 28/10/2018 at 2:31 PM, Jake said:

Defiantly try J&J. I used dawn with Suntek also, it doesn't play well with Ultimate Plus. Also try a spray carnauba wax on the panel before install. Lightly wipe it on and then let it haze over, then install film. 

Why you suggest to spray carnauba wax on the panel before install the film ? 

Hi guys 

I'm looking online and I found a few companies that offer paint protection film spray.

https://ngenco.com

What do you think about this product compare to regular PPF ? Durability against scratch, stone chip ... ? Orange peel effect ? 

Thanks 

13 hours ago, Midtown Houston said:

Use the new pink from fusion...it is the best...

You mean this one?

Fusion

You don't have bubble using this one? Mark? 

On 17/4/2018 at 4:28 PM, XPEL Jeff said:

It depends on the install solutions and the environment.  If using our gel and it's not boiling hot or freezing outside, then, yes moisture bubbles should dissipate. 

 

However, customers do not want to take delivery of a car with bubbles, so you should really strive to eliminate moisture bubbles during the installation process.  Work one section at a time and make sure it is clear before moving to the next section.  Usually, you'll have to step back and look from a couple of different angles to catch them all.

Jeff question. It's possibile that some water bubbles appear 1 hour after the installation ?

hardest some parts of Mclaren 720s

4 hours ago, XPEL Jeff said:

Those can happen for a variety of reasons:

 

• Film sticking to itself
• Wrinkles/kinks in the film
• Stopping the squeegee stroke on the film
• Film defects
• Squeegeeing over wrinkles

 

I'd work through it step by step, starting with examining more film from the same roll to see if there are defects present before removing it from the liner.

Hi Jeff

Thanks for the reply. 

The PPF is the Xpel Ultimate. I don't think is because of the defect. The PPF it's on the entire front of the car, and only two o tre little point we have these lines.

I think is because of the squeegee stopped on the film.

EDIT:

What do you mean for Wrinkles/kinks in the film ??

Thanks again

Hi guys 

I have one question. Do you know why there is this little line like marks on PPF? 

How we can avoid it during installation?

Thanks

On 4/4/2018 at 2:41 PM, PPFdistributing said:

Those are two separate issues. As far as stone chips, it will not hide them. If anything they will typically be more pronounced because it's a slight divot into the paint. Good news though is that it can prevent further damage and also prevent rusting on the panels that are metal. As far as light micro scratches, yes it will hide them. The deeper the scratch, the harder it is to hide it. Micro scratches from car washes or swirl marks from those that don't know how to take care of their car will disappear because the adhesive basically fills in those light gaps and will create a consistent look across the panel with whatever texture the film/paint is. 

Thanks for the answer and the support. 

I have another question, it's a problem if I'm going to drive my car under the rain, one or two days after the installation?

Couse I read online that you have to wait one week after installation, before washing the car.
Could I have some problem of using the car when it rains the day after the installation?

Thanks

Hello from Switzerland, I'm Italian !!

Hello guys

I have a question.
Does the PPF hides damage like stone chips and light scratches?
If I install the PPF on a car with light (micro) stone chips, after installation, will I continue to see them or will they be covered slightly?

Same for the light scratches.

Thank you all !