Toronto Guy

Full car, black Porsche 991.2 Turbo S.

You can still set it up as flat rate to get them to be efficient while not trying to go too fast by making them responsible for redo's or mess-ups. When the cost gets taken out of their check, they will get smart about what they are doing real fast.

Amen.

Here is my other thread:

http://www.tintdude.com/forum/index.php/topic/83410-brushed-steel/

Since we're so off course and I'm obviously not going to get any help, on my first thread I made an off-hand remark about PPF before my wrap question, and these dopes thought I was confusing PPF with wrap. No, if you read my posting history here you'll find I have a pretty good knowledge of these things, apparently better than anyone here since no one knows the answers to my questions I just didn't know that there was a wrap-specific forum where I should have put the thread.

I knew there was a wrap specific forum and I don't even do wraps, you don't kick someone in the nuts and then ask for help. IMO

Steve

I don't want to hurt your feelings or anything, but I recently responded to your other thread. Although I figured out what you meant with your question, it did start off sounding like you were using your concern about recent 3M PPF to question the 3M line of 1080 films.

For the record, the 1080 films are just fine, and you are right, application is dry.

TintDuda Triangle?

I asked my employee yesterday whether he prefers hourly days or flat rate days. For him it's flat rate hands down.

He has proven extremely honest and reliable, but I don't emphasize speed at all.

On the other hand I've had an employee who just wanted as many jobs as he could get, and I had to deal with the consequences after the fact... he wasn't with me all that long.

When I'm the consumer and something sounds too good to be true, I know it probably is. So if someone tells me they will do an absolute perfect job everytime, I know they are full of $h!t

I wonder if these guys who preach perfection have ever had a single comeback? Also if the comeback had one minut imperfection on the entire bumper, would they redo the entire bumper? Don't answer because I know what you would say on a forum would be different than a real life scenario.

Niiiiiiiice!

There will alway be minor imperfection......I was piss off when I ppf my own car that I redid some pieces 2-3 time just to get perfection. I will ship my next car I buy to you.....

HAH!

Oh snap! The old "It'll cure out" trick!

I've been doing this since 2003 myself, and now my forte is full fronts. I agree with the idea that the perfect install does not exist. When you are your own worst critic, you should be able to find fault in everything you do.

That said, I believe it takes a true professional not to cut up the work of others. Criticism can be delivered in a positive way (eg. "This area of concern appears to be caused by their approach to that shape", or "The tension appears to have been too high for this kind of film.", but listening to some posts, it sounds like a lot of people in this industry would rather have a pissing contest than see things from an objective standpoint.

I use a lot of this film.

Precut kits install AOK. Provided it is not under tension, it wraps nicely.

During bulk installs on bumpers, I'm encountering lifting from the stress. Even with liquid adhesive on the tuck areas of stressed edges. I didn't really get that too badly with XPEL Ultimate. I regularly bulk roll bumpers to a high degree of quality with Scotchgard 8 mil, with no retraction after the fact.

Having these issues at dealerships who expect high quality is not only embarrassing, it also raises questions about the installer. I know I'm not crazy here. Does anyone else do bulk good bumpers/mirrors with pro?

Cutting kits? The backing paper is so sheer it moves a bit while my plotter is working... It needs a grippier backing paper.