Paint Protection Film, Clear Bra Forum
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We have been detailing on the wholesale side for over 15 years and have 16 Dealerships we detail in. I have been asked to put together a dealer program for ppf and window tint. So, these new stores want to-do preloads of services, for example we would use XPEL dap and XPEL ultimate plus film. Preloads would be a wear and tear package at 6.65FT² and cost $38.43 to cut and interior trim package at 3.2 FT² and cost 24.62 to cut. I'm having a hard time coming up with pricing for the dealers so could I get some advice on what to charge. Or how you do dealer pricing. I have included pictures of the sample packages we would install. Thanks for your guys help in advance. …
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My question is the typical "how much should i get paid". i understand there are multiple variables that come into play to answer that. ill try to give as much background as possible. i work at a chevy dealership but also cover a buick/gmc and cadillac store so almost all my cars are GM. im a one man army that does everything involved in an install. with that in mind i can do h-f-m-b in 4-6hrs from going to get the car to pulling it back out of the stall. roughly 1-2 hrs for h-f-m. ive been installing tint and ppf for 6 years. in those 6 years ive had maybe half a dozen or so comebacks on the ppf side. im in the kansas city area. the answer im looking for is the total amou…
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Hi everyone, wanted to see if anyone has used PPF on Natural Stone such as Granite, Marble etc. If so, how long did it last on the surface and what were your outcomes with installation. Thanks
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Looking for someone to repair our plotter in Orlando. FC8600
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Hey Folks, I'm starting up a mobile PPF business in the coming months and am looking for a little advice on the best products to start with and build around. I was thinking of starting with 3M clear bra, window tinting and ceramic coating. Any recommendations on the product to focus on and best product to use would be much appreciated. I do plan on getting a proper shop up and running in a year or so, but want to start as a mobile service. Thanks!
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ACP Films is proud to introduce Stone guard Windsheild protective film. Our Windsheild Film is 7.2 Mil PPF on the bottom of the film. The top coat is a self healing, scratch resistant clear film. It’s a wet apply film with little to no heat shrinking required. Unlike other protective Windsheild films on the market. Our film is mendable and pliable to absorb impact from road hazards. Our film can be installed and applied under 30 minutes. Were starting this post to hear from other installers on there experience with windshield protection films.
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Hearing that an auto OEM is going to use colored paint film instead of spray paint. Has anyone heard the same? Why don't more manufacturers do this? Film is more protective, durable, and environmentally friendly than spray.
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Has somebody already checked out the new ppf Paint protection film Armolan has available in glossy and matt? I have got me some samples from Alex and made some test installations - the film is good to work with and is a great value for money. Would be happy to get some feedback and your opinion for this ppf. Thank you Dejan
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Hello guys, weeks after applying my pff i noticed some white marks specially on the edges of the ppf. it looks glued but i dont know how get rid of the white marks, i tried heat but it didnt work thanks
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Just took a 3 day PPF training course in Oct and last week I picked up new/used Graphtec FC8600-130 that was only used 6 times. Now I'm trying to figure out a cutting software out there that is good besides Xpel's DAP program. If you guys could please provide a feedback with brands and experience using that software it would be greatly appreciated.
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Hearing of PPG developing a paint with entrotech to put entrotech's paint protection tech into the paint itself - has anyone else been hearing of this? Anyone aware of the quality? Could see it not being great and still needing PPF on top.
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If you are looking to increase your sales SF is the way of the future! Get out with the old and in with the new like our newest instal company Auto Armor located in Arvada, CO. We just set up our newest dealer with our Window Film and PPF (Clear-Bra) display boards so he can take his install business to the next level. Check out our website at www.supremefilms.com to discover what makes our films far superior to the others in the marketplace.
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Hello everyone. I’ve won an auctions of a company’s assets after it unfortunately went into receivership, the plan was to just finish my project of covering my camper van in PPF but there is so much more PPF need. So I plan to sell it on or use it in other ways. Anyway that’s the back story, I have some pre cut PPF patterns that I could use some help with identifying. I think these are XPEL patterns, I believe there to be a BMW X5 or X6 front end, Aston Martin Vanquish S front end, GT4 rear end and that’s as far as I’ve got. Any help with identifying them would be gratefully received.
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Hey community, I'm just getting started on PPF and looking for a used 60" Graphtec plotter in the Los Angeles county or neighboring counties. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Does anyone know of any of the software out there that has a patterns for the door belt moldings or the big reveal moldings. I work for gm and all the trucks have all that chrome moldings ad we have decent amount of customers that for whatever reason want it in PPF. We are an xpel dealer and DAP does not have anything close. We started messing with making our own and at the moment we are just hand cutting the film so I was just looking if anyone knew of any other solutions to cut down on some time.
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TL;DR - How do you go about convincing, or informing customers that come in with a specific brand in mind? So, this question is for those of you using lesser-known but similar if not better performing PPF brands like Hexis, FlexiShield, Opticle, and all the myriad of custom signature brands that everyone and their mother seem to make. Or to those who are good at marketing and selling a product I guess. I had a lead call me up this past week asking for a quote for a full-front PPF on their car. I proceeded to grab their info, and I told them I would email them a formal quote with pricing and other options. The last question on his mind was, "What br…
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The Advantage of Clearpro Paint Protection Film ① Clearpro's positioning is a top global brand, competing with other top American brands( like XPEL,3M, Suntek etc.)in terms of high-quality standards. ② Has Promoted CLEARPRO on PPFMAG™ ③ Will attend the SEMA Show this year and order the largest booth in the main hall next year. ④ Professional team to operate Clearpro's social media. ⑤ The best PolyopticoTM coating technology and InvisiGlueTM adhesive technology ⑥ The best non-yellowing polycaprolactone TPU substrate ⑦ 12,000㎡ world class factory and professional R&D center
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The Advantage of Clearpro Paint Protection Film ① Clearpro's positioning is a top global brand, competing with other top American brands( like Hexi,XPEL,3M, Suntek etc.)in terms of high-quality standards. ② Has Promoted CLEARPRO on PPFMAG™ ③ Will attend the SEMA Show this year and order the largest booth in the main hall next year. ④ Professional team to operate Clearpro's social media. ⑤ The best PolyopticoTM coating technology and InvisiGlueTM adhesive technology ⑥ The best non-yellowing polycaprolactone TPU substrate ⑦ 12,000㎡ world class factory and professional R&D center
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ACP FILMS is proud to introduce our new Matte 7.3 mil paint protection film. This film has amazing hydrophobic properties. Our Matte PPF is forgiving making for an stress-free insulation. All of our films come with a 15 year no hassle warranty. So if you’re doing full body, Matte installs you don’t want to miss out on this amazing offer! We have for October 60 x 50 Matte PPF for $799. We ship throughout the United States and the world. Don’t miss out while supplies last! Fell free to text or call 505-400-3836 or email dale@acp-films.com (Free Samples Are Available)
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Hello everyone. Please could someone help? I’m looking for a pattern for a door mirror and a rear bumper top, preferably Xpel pattern. The vehicle I’m applying this to is a 2022 Volkswagen T6.1 California. I’ve gone round the houses trying to creating a template, scanning and cutting adjusting and cutting and it not going that well, so this brings me to (I hope) you lovely people for some help. If it helps I’m using Xpel ppf shipped from Xpel USA to UK. Also I’m cutting the ppf on my mrs Cricut machine (No laughing) so a file format of svg would be handy but I guess not essential, as I can convert the file type…
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Without contact Xpel directly, anyone know the general requirement to become a dealer?
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HI Guys, Just after some thoughts and opinions on 3M's newer 200 Series PPF. I did read that it got an updated top coating that is more hydrophobic but was wondering what's the real wold feel from the pros. How is this new film stacking up against Stek's DynoSheild or xPel Ultimate. I did have a chat to a local installer that(based on the raving review is one of the best) and he said that 3M are junk and recommended Opti-Coat PPF. In the same conversation he said the same thing about 3M's tint and said that Rayno make the best film. After this, I decided to node my head, agree and thank him for his valuable time. So what are eve…
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I am looking for a PPF pattern for the headlights of a 2008 BMW E71. I have just finished polishing the headlights after many trials (see here: https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/help-headlight-restoration-swirls-showing.1455750/). I must now install the PPF from a roll I ordered online. I thought it would be a piece of cake cutting this film while on the car, but it is not that easy and I would like to do a good job. If anyone has access to any pro software and feels charitable enough, could you please allow me to use the headlight template for this car? If you would be so kind I would really appreciate it immensely.
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For those familiar , what's your take on Windshield PPF The last time I was looking into this stuff, all the top brands had issues with curing time... Anyhow, I have a certain vehicle, that due to the angle of the glass, etc - it's just prone to chips/cracks. We have windshield on the insurance....you know how it goes. They say it doesn't affect your premium as it's a rider...but you end up getting surcharged eventually...
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Hey guys! 1 Year into PPFing (and plotting) and I can't figure out how to get my film to stop sliding left or right before plotting. I've changed ALL the pinch wheels, the teflon cut strip, and cleaned the metal rollers under the pinch wheels. I even cut my film off the roll so it's not pulling. Sometimes I can get it to go straight, but it takes me anywhere from 15m to 30m of fiddling with the film to achieve. Is that normal? Thanks
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Hi. I have ppf in my f31 door jambs. There are some bubbles after 3 weeks since it was put on. I live in norway so temperature has probably been averaging around 7-8c for those 3 weeks, car is parked in cold well vented garage. I was thinking of popping the big ones with a insulin needle. But since im new to this, I'd rather ask people with more experience before I start doing anything. Does anyone think these will vaporate by themselves through summer or should I go ahead with the needle? Im not worried about air bubbles, but water bubbles and the fear of rustspots is what will keep me up at night... Thanks.
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Hey everyone, I've got roughly 52 PPF videos on YouTube that go over anything from, tools needed to install PPF, PPF install basics, tips, techniques, to installing on difficult vehicles. Here is a link to my channel. I put out a new video every Sunday at the minimum. Any feedback if always greatly appreciated as well. Channel link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX7qyaj3RsGFh7qU6z_iwIQ
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Hey guys hope all is well, I’ll get right to it, whenever I’m finishing up a panels I always have trouble getting the edges down, what do you guys think is the problem?
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Anyone tried platinum EXTRA/ulta DEFENSE? Apparently its a thicker and stronger film han the regular platinum/ultra. Does it offer better optical clarity/shine?
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If you don't want to be affiliated with such company's like (3M, Xpel, SunTek, etc) but don't mind paying for a monthly or yearly subscription without needing to install their particular product(film), is there a company that some may know who can direct us in the PPF installation industry? I figure there has to be some genius somewhere out there that can make tons of money making their own software If not, I wish I could be that genius. Haha Thanks for reading!
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I've heard from people that it is unprofessional to use adhesive promoter / primer when closing the edges and corners? What are the risks? Is it possible to not use bonding promoters, but seal the edges and corners and not having to worry about lifting?? Thanks!
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Don't know why it's peeling. I did it twice now, second time I used bug and tar remover in case there was some kind of coating, clay bar, alcohol, etc. When I peeled it of the car the first time it seemed to come off waaaay to easy, no bite. I'm using sun tek and never had this issue.
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Is the XPEL software working normally? I'm having problems and the support people don't answer me.
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Does anyone know if you need to buy Suntek film to use Core software?
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Hi everyone. I am about to do a full front wrap on a Tesla Model Y, and I will be removing the emblem on the hood and replacing it with a new emblem after the PPF is installed. The customer doesn't want the emblem cut out and much rather prefers the clean look of the full hood coverage. That being said, I am using Avery Dennison's Supreme Defense Gloss Paint Protection Film. This film has an incredibly slick/hydrophobic top coat which in turn makes things impossible to adhere to it because it. I can only assume that over time that top coat will start to deteriorate and adhesion to it won't be an issue. However, directly after installation and coming straight o…
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I am new here and am desperately looking for advice or recommendations. I just started up my own PPF business. I got certified by Xpel last year and have worked in this industry for many years at the dealership. Now, everything is done, I have the shop, EIN, insurance, etc. I just need customers. I cannot seem to get the dealerships to come around to utilizing PPF. They come up with excuses like it's not in demand or it's too complicated to go through the corporation, etc. Anyone else have this problem at the beginning of your startup? What am I doing wrong? I am slowly starting to think I've made a mistake. I love this work and really want to make something of it.
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I've been installing for 5 years with ppf, scotch guard venture shield, pro series and pro series 2. I started on 2011 range rovers and Jaguars, I was the in house guy at the dealership, I was there for about a year then luther wanted to start a accaury division to weed out the venders. So big Corp. and son of luther sit me done offering me a position I said yes and of course lots of promises that didn't fall Thur. I have been with automotive performance studio for 4 years now and I was the last standing of the 4 guys they had at the begging of the start up. There was ups and downs but always made more every year. Needless to say i just couldnt put up with Corp. bullshit…
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Hi yall, I'm looking for a bulk roll of ppf size 60" x 50 ft gloss for a couple of my rides. Prefer sealed package of Xpel, Legend, suntek, stek or 3M. Will pay cash if price is right.
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Hi all new to the forum. I tried searching my issue and found this site so I decided to register and post my concern/issue and maybe someone here has some advice for me. I have a 2022 Challenger Jailbreak I took right from the dealer 3 miles down the road to get PPF installed. This place was recommended and overall, I am very happy with the results. He used XPEL and did the whole front end, lower rockers, and some other small areas. He says he uses the XPEL library and doesn't cut any film on the car. I am only not happy with the way the stripes turned out, this car has matte vinyl racing stripes. He decided to cover the whole hood with the r…
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Can anyone confirm that the birthing method where the PPF is softened with steam is doable on a 2022 Porsche Cayenne. I want to avoid removing the side mirrors and also the seam along the top of the mirror if it can't be done. I actually purchased the rubber gasket that seals the mirror to the door so that I can have the exact shape. I have the pdf of the scanned gasket if anyone wants it.
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