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Lets see 100 bones plus expenses to vegas or whereever and it's NOT certification OK then exactly what is it beside pretty paper.

Whatever Guys If it works for you great :dunno If it means that much the IWFA should get the process endorsed by the manufacturers. I'm just not interested myself especially after reading this On the website.

What does taking these examinations mean?

Passing the IWFA safety & security training/exam, the solar control specialist training/exam, or the automotive training/exam means that you have acquired the practical and technical knowledge deemed necessary by the IWFA for competency in the market. It is not certification; it is education credit recognized by the IWFA.

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Can someone name me any industry/ trade where the materials cannot be purchased in a diy fashion? What makes us think think that aquiring film is the problem? Anyone can buy a shingle but can you install a quality roof? I can buy an hvac system and ductwork but can I install a functional system? Electrical supplies without burning house down? Do you blame Tamco, York, or GE?

Just wondering, cuz I've never figured out what makes us think that the folks who make the products are restricted to selling only to those that know how to use it. :dunno

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Can someone name me any industry/ trade where the materials cannot be purchased in a diy fashion? What makes us think think that aquiring film is the problem? Anyone can buy a shingle but can you install a quality roof? I can buy an hvac system and ductwork but can I install a functional system? Electrical supplies without burning house down? Do you blame Tamco, York, or GE?

Just wondering, cuz I've never figured out what makes us think that the folks who make the products are restricted to selling only to those that know how to use it. :)

[*]364922

Aquiring film is not the problem, h@ck competition makes it easier for me to sell. Tonight I sold 400ft job in part because I took my shoes off before I entered the house. My competitior dropped a bid off earlier and walked right in with his dirt hoofs on. Customer said that ticked them off, I replyed that they would have really been steamed if they'd have let him put auto film on their windows because that is what his sample was. :)

BTW- You may be able to buy the ductwork and an HVAC system but I don't think you can buy the freon to charge the system without a license, which is in a sense is a certification. :)

[*]364964

I agree 100%. I think if certification became widespread it would have to be a plus for a legit business. Take your shoes off, professional presentation and a piece of paper stating that your qualified all helps make customer more comfortable. Kinda like being member of BBB or chamber of commerce, it does'nt mean ( from customer view ) that your not gonna get hosed but makes you a little more apted to hire the guy with complete package. :)

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Can someone name me any industry/ trade where the materials cannot be purchased in a diy fashion? What makes us think think that aquiring film is the problem? Anyone can buy a shingle but can you install a quality roof? I can buy an hvac system and ductwork but can I install a functional system? Electrical supplies without burning house down? Do you blame Tamco, York, or GE?

Just wondering, cuz I've never figured out what makes us think that the folks who make the products are restricted to selling only to those that know how to use it. :DD

[*]364922

Aquiring film is not the problem, h@ck competition makes it easier for me to sell. Tonight I sold 400ft job in part because I took my shoes off before I entered the house. My competitior dropped a bid off earlier and walked right in with his dirt hoofs on. Customer said that ticked them off, I replyed that they would have really been steamed if they'd have let him put auto film on their windows because that is what his sample was. :)

BTW- You may be able to buy the ductwork and an HVAC system but I don't think you can buy the freon to charge the system without a license, which is in a sense is a certification. :)

[*]364964

they just accepted your bid quickly to get your nasty azz stinkin feet out of there house :):)

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  It is not certification; it is education credit recognized by the IWFA.

[*]364895

Correct...

Certification in terms of liability is what mfg avoid like the plague...

Certification means the mfg becomes liable for an installers actions when using their product... it is a rare occasion indeed when this term is used in relation to film mfg and film installer.

Accreditation is the term used today in the litigious society of ours.

And... the mfg have given their blessing to the IWFA sanctioned study guide and test... not only was it compiled by participating members, it was reviewed by all member mfg before publishing.

Yeah, it's just a piece of paper... but just as much as any person can take what I say with a grain salt, so it can go for anyone listening to a window film sales pitch.

It takes the potential 'in the mind of the beholder' out of the equation.

I took my shoes off before I entered the house.

Man can I relate... this was my trademark when selling flat glass film in Florida... shoes off... or for those ' OC monk' like, slip over booties.

Only found one house I refused to remove my shoes in... once that front door opened and I could see the conditions... :):) No way were my shoes coming off! :)

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I dont sell the jobs but I work them and I wear those botties when inside. I get customers askin me why the dealer that sold tha job didnt wear them. :) Usually tell them I guess he ran out.

I think a cerificate is a good thing, and anything that can help you stand out from another company should be considered. The certificate doesnt mean that you are a better tinter then the next guy, it says that you take your business seriously and put the time in to be as informed as possible. Although, if you cant make yourself stand out from the rest then might aswell close up shop:lol

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no certification will ever know what I know. and I think I speak for everyone on here.

[*]364255

Agreed! Most of us could teach the course. But the day I quit learning, I'll be daed! :lol6

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Despite the nay sayers... electricians, plumbers, doctors, lawyers, etc. all need some kind of 'industry wide standard' they must meet before being considered legitimate for the trade or profession... why not window film installers?

It would go far to boost the image of this industry and as always, give a newcomer a jump start to learned information pertinent to succeeding rather than blindly bolting out of the gate.

Old timers like myself didn't have the option of taking a course and being awarded a certificate indicating success at one milestone in a journey to become recognized as knowledgeable. Today, these are available.

Though I don't need them... I have taken and successfully passed the IWFA Solar Specialist, Automotive, and Safety & Security Film tests.

The certificates, when seen by someone new or outside the industry hanging on the training center wall, give a degree of comfort in knowing and credibility that the name on them has background in the industry he represents.

Many contract jobs today for Safety Film ask to show recognition of competence by the mfg. of the person bidding the job.

If we all want the hacks out... make this concept happen and work throughout the entire industry, then see and reap the benefits.

Please don't say it's not rocket science... the DIY lurker will only feed on this statement as well as those who think they can just jump in and begin making money. :lol

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Sorry for the length, but this needs saying. One year, back in the keys, I went to renew my business license. I was asked (for the first time ever) if I had a CC? Monroe County started requiring all contractors to have a certificate of competency. I said no, and asked how to get one. I was told that I would normally pay $75.00 and take a test. Then upon passing the exam, a certificate would be issued.

So I asked to take the test. I was told that no such test was available for window tint, but if I paid the $75.00, I would be issued one.

I thought about it, then said that an electrician, or plumber could pay the $75.00, and get to take a test, but not me. HHHMMMM :DD:lol

I went back to the shop and called our councilwoman and proposed that the county hire me as a consultant to produce an examination for window tint. I figure that around $75,000.00 consultation fee would not be out of line. After all, the county paid her nephew $850.000.00 to plan hurricane evacuation from the Keys to the mainland. Think about THAT one! :lol6 I would then be happy to pay the $75.00 and take the test for my CC, and get my license.

That year, I was issued my business license, no test, and no processing fee!! :DD

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