Madico Advanced Ceramics

[aliveandawake]

The madica and enpro specs are the same, there is just the additional 5000 film in the enpro specs.

The two films seem similar, but are different in a few ways as well. That will explain the 1-2 percentages in difference. Hold the films up to the window and check them out. The definitly look different...

[Guest vclimber]

The madica and enpro specs are the same, there is just the additional 5000 film in the enpro specs.

The two films seem similar, but are different in a few ways as well. That will explain the 1-2 percentages in difference. Hold the films up to the window and check them out. The definitly look different...

Yep, Madico makes a single ply and Huper makes a multi-ply ceramic, they will perform a little different and they will look different too.

[Guest powerr95]

alive and awake.

check out the reflectivity numbers. madicos are nearly double.

the reason I know this is that huper made the single ply products first, four years ago, bc they are easy to make and cheaper, but thought nobody would buy a product, even if you call it ceramic with those high reflectivity numbers. I thinbk huper has made it again but in 72" widths too in the last two months and its a lot cheaper than the 2 ply.

compare the madico website reflectivity to enpros and also to other dual reflectivity lines and you will see that madicos products are not really low in reflectivity.

they are closer to the dual reflective products that huper has.

just thought I would keep you posted. hope that helps.

[aliveandawake]

the MAC is not shinny stuff.

Yes the single ply MAC is a bit more reflective compared to Huper by about 2-3%. You are a bit confused with the specs there. The Madico Film to glass chart has listed the Total Energy reflected, and not the Visible Light refectance. A totally different mesurement. The Enpro site has the Visible Light Reflectance and when comparing the films, those are the one to use.

[Guest Bob30]

Nice pictures.

Yea Powerr95, I'm not sure what your talking about

Huper Optik's Numbers

http://www.huperoptikusa.com/pdf_docs/HOUS...ODUCT_RECAP.pdf

Madico's Numbers

http://www.enprodistributing.com/products/...otive/index.cfm

For Madico's Datasheet click the "Advanced Ceramic Data Sheet"

The Numbers differ from only 2-3 points.

The n@ked eye can not differentiate between 2-3 percentage of Visible Light Reflectance between the two tints. Nor are you going to feel more comfortable in a 85% IR Rejection compared to 82% IR Rejection.

aliveandawake, you said you held the two films up side by side.

How do they look different? I don't think you can tell which one is more reflective considering its only by 2 or 3 percent. In what ways do they look different? Color, Thickness, Clarity, or what?

Thanks in advance.

Are they both around the same price?

-No exact numbers please. Just are they or are they not around the same price.

-If not which one is cheaper?

Judging by the Datasheets It looks like Enpro has more information about Madico's tint than Madico's website.

Both Enpro and Huper are missing information about their film.

Anyone have the following for Madico's 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000?

1. Shading Coefficient

2. UV is obviously 99% for all, I think.

Anyone have the following for Huper Optik's 30, 40, 50, 60 ?

1. Solar Energy Transmitted

2. Solar Energy Reflected

3. Solar Energy Absorbed

Huper Offers Lifetime Warranty for Residential Customers and 15 Year Warranty for Commercial Customers.

Madico lists nothing about their Warranty.

No Hosing

[Devil with bad attitude]

Madico lists nothing about their Warranty.

I wonder why....because it puts up information that customers can pin on a wall forever and then they would be exposed.

Better to not advertise the Archilles Heal of window film then nobody gets grief hey .

devil

[Guest vclimber]

Both Enpro and Huper are missing information about their film.

Anyone have the following for Madico's 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000?

1. Shading Coefficient

2. UV is obviously 99% for all, I think.

Anyone have the following for Huper Optik's 30, 40, 50, 60 ?

1. Solar Energy Transmitted

2. Solar Energy Reflected

3. Solar Energy Absorbed

Huper Offers Lifetime Warranty for Residential Customers and 15 Year Warranty for Commercial Customers.

Madico lists nothing about their Warranty.

No Hosing

Bob if you had points 1 & 2 for Huper then you'd be able to calculatee what point #3 is and that has been the million dollar question for several years now.

Madico or it's partner to be more concise bought an old extra machine from SW that is cabable of creating a ceramic layer and then Madico laminates it as a single ply product. That is why it is a little more reflective and thinner than Huper's ceramics. Huper can easily, and probably will release a competing single ply ceramic in addition to the premium ceramics in the near future.

Begun the ceramic wars have...

[Guest zolar]

I thought it was a couple of sputtering machines

is it the ion plasma deposition

......or just a sputtered silver nitrile gimmick

[Guest vclimber]

I thought it was a couple of sputtering machines

is it the ion plasma deposition

......or just a sputtered silver nitrile gimmick

I think they got a good deal on a goat cheese maker.

[Guest zolar]

there it is...

the secret sauce