Jump to content

WARNING 2009 Mustang Windshield Problems

Iron Duck Designs

Recommended Posts

ljr1977

ljr1977

Posted
Posted

is this a joke? why would you pull down on a mirror, it designed to be removed UP. ford makes to different style of rear view mirrors. both are simple wow it takes a special tool. tell me you wouldnt tint a window with out a special tool....for years now I here all the time about this and nobody will spend the ten bucks on the tool that maco makes or any other tool truck.

PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A JOKE RIGHT?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 36
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Iron Duck Designs

Iron Duck Designs

Posted
  • Author
Posted

No, I am serious we are paying $400 for a replacement glass today...sucks but custy is handling well.

Our glass guy say it is the way the mirror is positioned on the glass. He says the slightest extra weight, can cause a break in the interior of the glass, so yes, you can break them from adjusting the mirror.

He says it is most of the domestics that are starting to use this thinner laminated glass and he literally replaces the windshields after a rock chip now.

So we are offically done tinting the front strips on Fords or any mirror that needs to be removed...can't be spending all my money on replacement glass. This stuff really pisses me off because I want domestic autos to be successful but then they do cheap stuff like this...how much money do you have to spend to get quality anymore...this is a $28,000 car...

Oh, and Ford told the customer that they have never heard of that before and that he should call his insurance. Bullshit. He says this is the last Ford he will buy. Way to go, Ford, lost another one.

And by the way, we have all the tools and decided not to remove the mirror, just to adjust the mirror downward and it cracked, the customer could have done it, all we heard was a pop, we didn't force it or anything...we have been tinting for 15 years and this is a first for us...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ljr1977

ljr1977

Posted
Posted
No, I am serious we are paying $400 for a replacement glass today...sucks but custy is handling well.

Our glass guy say it is the way the mirror is positioned on the glass. He says the slightest extra weight, can cause a break in the interior of the glass, so yes, you can break them from adjusting the mirror.

He says it is most of the domestics that are starting to use this thinner laminated glass and he literally replaces the windshields after a rock chip now.

So we are offically done tinting the front strips on Fords or any mirror that needs to be removed...can't be spending all my money on replacement glass. This stuff really pisses me off because I want domestic autos to be successful but then they do cheap stuff like this...how much money do you have to spend to get quality anymore...this is a $28,000 car...

Oh, and Ford told the customer that they have never heard of that before and that he should call his insurance. Bullshit. He says this is the last Ford he will buy. Way to go, Ford, lost another one.

And by the way, we have all the tools and decided not to remove the mirror, just to adjust the mirror downward and it cracked, the customer could have done it, all we heard was a pop, we didn't force it or anything...we have been tinting for 15 years and this is a first for us...

I can say that yes 15 years never have I pulled down on a mirror and ford has one of the easiest mirrors to remove besides..not doing stripes anymore I hope it doesn hurt your bus.? the mustang stripe is one of my favorites and remove every mirror the right way with the right tool and always upward pressure NEVER DOWNWARD! and they come out perfect every time looking like this...

l_85a69ea5131c893dbe2a94cb38109856.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites
dbdreams

dbdreams

Posted
Posted
No, I am serious we are paying $400 for a replacement glass today...sucks but custy is handling well.

Our glass guy say it is the way the mirror is positioned on the glass. He says the slightest extra weight, can cause a break in the interior of the glass, so yes, you can break them from adjusting the mirror.

He says it is most of the domestics that are starting to use this thinner laminated glass and he literally replaces the windshields after a rock chip now.

So we are offically done tinting the front strips on Fords or any mirror that needs to be removed...can't be spending all my money on replacement glass. This stuff really pisses me off because I want domestic autos to be successful but then they do cheap stuff like this...how much money do you have to spend to get quality anymore...this is a $28,000 car...

Oh, and Ford told the customer that they have never heard of that before and that he should call his insurance. Bullshit. He says this is the last Ford he will buy. Way to go, Ford, lost another one.

And by the way, we have all the tools and decided not to remove the mirror, just to adjust the mirror downward and it cracked, the customer could have done it, all we heard was a pop, we didn't force it or anything...we have been tinting for 15 years and this is a first for us...

I can say that yes 15 years never have I pulled down on a mirror and ford has one of the easiest mirrors to remove besides..not doing stripes anymore I hope it doesn hurt your bus.? the mustang stripe is one of my favorites and remove every mirror the right way with the right tool and always upward pressure NEVER DOWNWARD! and they come out perfect every time looking like this...

l_85a69ea5131c893dbe2a94cb38109856.jpg

Dude,

This is something that is not just related to Ford's and like you, before it happened to me and considering the many many cars I have done with no problem I would have felt the same as you but it did happen to me at least twice that I can remember. In fact once there was no strip involved I just reached up to adjust the mirror to back out of the bay and "pop". It was just that easy. Sometimes :bingo happens.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ljr1977

ljr1977

Posted
Posted
No, I am serious we are paying $400 for a replacement glass today...sucks but custy is handling well.

Our glass guy say it is the way the mirror is positioned on the glass. He says the slightest extra weight, can cause a break in the interior of the glass, so yes, you can break them from adjusting the mirror.

He says it is most of the domestics that are starting to use this thinner laminated glass and he literally replaces the windshields after a rock chip now.

So we are offically done tinting the front strips on Fords or any mirror that needs to be removed...can't be spending all my money on replacement glass. This stuff really pisses me off because I want domestic autos to be successful but then they do cheap stuff like this...how much money do you have to spend to get quality anymore...this is a $28,000 car...

Oh, and Ford told the customer that they have never heard of that before and that he should call his insurance. Bullshit. He says this is the last Ford he will buy. Way to go, Ford, lost another one.

And by the way, we have all the tools and decided not to remove the mirror, just to adjust the mirror downward and it cracked, the customer could have done it, all we heard was a pop, we didn't force it or anything...we have been tinting for 15 years and this is a first for us...

I can say that yes 15 years never have I pulled down on a mirror and ford has one of the easiest mirrors to remove besides..not doing stripes anymore I hope it doesn hurt your bus.? the mustang stripe is one of my favorites and remove every mirror the right way with the right tool and always upward pressure NEVER DOWNWARD! and they come out perfect every time looking like this...

l_85a69ea5131c893dbe2a94cb38109856.jpg

Dude,

This is something that is not just related to Ford's and like you, before it happened to me and considering the many many cars I have done with no problem I would have felt the same as you but it did happen to me at least twice that I can remember. In fact once there was no strip involved I just reached up to adjust the mirror to back out of the bay and "pop". It was just that easy. Sometimes :bingo happens.

and surely you realize it's glass and not stone then?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Iron Duck Designs

Iron Duck Designs

Posted
  • Author
Posted

yeah, I am just grateful custy is cool about it really, and lesson learned, we thought it might be a problem because some other dealer buds of ours said that the mirrors were POS ne way so...we won't do again...not worth the hassle...my shop lost money on this job and even if custy comes back for more work, it will take us 2 jobs to recover and profit from it, so blah...but glad that lesson is over and we are moving on...lol...back to work...the laminated glass thing is really a problem with the midwestern heat and with the laws changing (maybe) around here hopefully we will just be able to not offer it on certain cars and be fine $$$$$ wise...

Is a shame to, tint job was flawless...lol...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest scottydosnntkno

Guest scottydosnntkno

Posted
Posted
yeah, I am just grateful custy is cool about it really, and lesson learned, we thought it might be a problem because some other dealer buds of ours said that the mirrors were POS ne way so...we won't do again...not worth the hassle...my shop lost money on this job and even if custy comes back for more work, it will take us 2 jobs to recover and profit from it, so blah...but glad that lesson is over and we are moving on...lol...back to work...the laminated glass thing is really a problem with the midwestern heat and with the laws changing (maybe) around here hopefully we will just be able to not offer it on certain cars and be fine $$$$$ wise...

Is a shame to, tint job was flawless...lol...

I feel the same way. Fords are the only mirrors I refused to remove up until I cracked one off. I HAVE the special tool, and stick cracked a windshield with it trying to use it, as I was on the phone with a dealer tech on how to do it. That small crack was thankfully repairable. After breaking the mirror clean off the MKZ two weeks ago, I now added to my waiver that every customer signs if they want work done that at no time will I removed a rear view mirror whether its for a strip or a full shield. The customer is responsible for getting it off or having someone else do it, otherwise I'll just make a splice cut over it. Noone has found it unreasonable in the last few weeks, and understands that its for insurance reasons.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ljr1977

ljr1977

Posted
Posted

wow, I guess we need a how to video on how to remove mirrors... one thing that I never mentioned is I live in florida and as long as you have comp. ins. its a free replacement. so even if one got broke in my shop there wouldnt be any hassle do to florida laws under comp ins. "replacement is free" I thought all state had comp. ins. and for a person not to have comp. ins. on a brand new car "just doesnt heppen in florida"

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest scottydosnntkno

Guest scottydosnntkno

Posted
Posted
wow, I guess we need a how to video on how to remove mirrors... one thing that I never mentioned is I live in florida and as long as you have comp. ins. its a free replacement. so even if one got broke in my shop there wouldnt be any hassle do to florida laws under comp ins. "replacement is free" I thought all state had comp. ins. and for a person not to have comp. ins. on a brand new car "just doesnt heppen in florida"

we have to have insurance in michigan too but not full comp. You can have PL/PD if you have an old beater. Even still our glass coverage carries a $150-250 deductible depending on the carrier.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing
  •   Sponsored by
    martinmetalwork.com

    rewiredtech.io

    tinttek

    filmvinyldesigns

    The Tint Tutor

    ride wrap

    Lexen

    Tint My Ride

    tintwiz

    auto-precut.com

    signwarehouse

  • Activity Stream

    1. 2

      Llumar air 80 vs 3m Crystalline - dealer advised to go regular 3m ceramic over Crystalline

      @Tintguy1980 pretty much covered the difference in the films. Since Ceramic films absorb the heat, the vehicle must be in motion to push the hot air away. No motion means more heat building up in the glass and radiating inward to you. Since Crystalline redirects heat away, the radiating inward heat is much less if you are in traffic or sitting still. As far as the shop, they either don't want to stock Crystalline since it is $$$$ per roll or do not want to install it since it takes more work and time. Also, not all 3M dealers can install Crystalline. If you check the dealer locator, if they do not have "Crystalline Preferred" listed, then this is most likely the case. With that being said, we absolutely love the Ceramic IR line, so you can't go wrong there.
      DynamicATL in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    2. 0

      Graphtec Plotter

      I should reach out to graphtec about this issue, but I'm curious if anyone else has experienced the same problem with their plotter. My graphtec plotter can cut specific designs flawlessly without any problems with pressure or shape. Occasionally I experience an issue where I will plot a design consisting of two fronts or a rear windshield window, and the cut is flawless, but just before the plotter finishes, allowing me to remove the excess material from the machine. It reaches the end as if it will finish feeding it completely and then abruptly lowers the blade as if it still needs to cut the design, slicing right through the pattern it just created. Do you have any thoughts on why that occurs?
      Tintguy Santa in Plotters and Cutting Systems
    3. 0

      FOR SALE Jaguar V LX 40" plotter

      Selling a like new Jaguar VLX 40" plotter. Works perfectly, we upgraded to another plotter and don't have space for this one. Only available for pickup, located in Orange County. If interested or you have any questions please contact us at 949-888-6581. Priced at $3,800 OBO.
      AudioToyz in Plotters and Cutting Systems
    4. 2

      Llumar air 80 vs 3m Crystalline - dealer advised to go regular 3m ceramic over Crystalline

      Easy technical explanation of the difference between Crystalline and regular 'ceramic' labeled products, including 3Ms: Crystalline is designed to 'reflect' NIR (Near Infrared, the sun's energy we 'feel' first) as opposed to 'ceramic' products absorbing. Absorbing translates into feeling the sun's energy radiating off the window as your arm is rested next to it. Therefore, Crystalline is superior to ceramics. This is the pitch I would make to you as a buyer. Maybe the dealer you spoke with simply doesn't want to pay the price for a roll of the product. I've had Crystalline 40 on my front door glass for 8 yrs now and it shows zero sign of any degradation in color, performance and clarity. Crystalline would be better than AIR80 for the windshield as well.
      Tintguy1980 in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    5. 2

      Llumar air 80 vs 3m Crystalline - dealer advised to go regular 3m ceramic over Crystalline

      I just got off the phone with a 3m dealer in Dallas and he strongly advised me to save my money and get their regular ceramic and not the 3M Crystalline. He said I'd never know the difference and acted like it was NOTHING more than a marketing strategy. So that's got me all confused. He could make more money off me, but I feel like he's being honest and I appreciate that. But, then I hear everywhere else how much better Crystalline is over other products. So, I'm still debating on Air 80 or Crystalline for the windshield and Llumar IRx or Formula 1 or 3m Crystalline for the other windows.. So much to consider! FYI, I generally like the best for a couple hundred more, BUT I do want there to be some improvement.
      dtximages in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    6. 1

      Reimbursement for warranty work on solar or safety film

      Crap shoot.
      Tintguy1980 in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    7. 1

      Beginner trying to learn, where I'm at...

      Welcome to the forum! I would recommend Global non-cap ppf and get a second bottle with plain water only to flush the edges for better adhesion. If you're leaving water behind try using a different squeegee. I prefer a dark yellow turbo from Interwest. Instead of heating I think you should be streaching the film into place to pull the fingers out.
      Dano in Paint Protection Film, Clear Bra Forum
    8. 4,178

      What did you tint today?

      Y'all try not to get too excited, but this is the four cylinder Suzuki version of the Geo Metro with a whopping 1.3L. No ac or power steering but getting 45mpg on 13" rims.
      Dano in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    9. 1

      Beginner trying to learn, where I'm at...

      Hello, thanks for allowing me to join. I'm a retired auto technician/High School Automotive Instructor. Enjoyed working on cars all of my life. I have had and still have several nice cars (mostly Corvettes) and enjoy keepng them nice. I have a lift in my garage which helps with the install on lower areas of the vehicle. I have been tinkering with PPF film here and there on rock chip prone areas on my cars. I have been sucessful sometimes installing where it was acceptable to my liking, but never perfect. I have had to rip several off and start over. That doesn't bother me because I really want to master this. Education isn't free and if it means wasting film and time I understand. I have gotten over the fear of installing it on small areas (front of wheel well area on rear quarter of C8 Corvette) and shrinking it with heat gun to smooth out fingers but cannot do an insatll without getting any bubbles completely. Some installs the bubbles have dried over a couple of weeks and were acceptable for me. But other installs were not, and I had to start over. The solution I'm using is the typical 16oz distilled water and 2 or 3 drops of baby shampoo. The film is Ebay pre-cut kits. Can anyone shed any light as to what I'm doing wrong to minimize the bubbles? Is there a different solution I should be using? Is there a better film to start with that is easier to use for beginners? I'd appreciate any advice or tips I can get. Thanks in advance!
      vetteowner in Paint Protection Film, Clear Bra Forum
    10. 4

      Xpel; rookie (me) popped air pocket and nicked paint

      Thanks for the reply! I will see what happens. I tested the paint on a scrap of PPF I had sitting around, the it seems really secure. Just for perspective, I attached a photo of my goof. It really was a small divot, just bugged me that I did it at all. I did place a very small bit of paint on the top of the exposure. Living in MN, rust is always the concern, so I am hoping I have this sealed. While I know that PPF can't heal a cut like this, it was very flat so the exposure should hopefully be minimal. (What looks like a fold is the reflection of a seam in the ceiling)
      JonMN in Paint Protection Film, Clear Bra Forum
×
×
  • Create New...