Devil with bad attitude

Now I've said it I feel better!

Everyday it's the same....how much for your darkest legal metal tint with lifetime bullshit?

Devil

Hi DEVIL!

What time in Your region? And what season  ?

All Europa is sleeping      Only me  strong guy 

Riga in Latvia is about 15 hours behind us Leo. We are 2 weeks into the beginning of our very hot summer.

Glad to know you are selling tint in such a cold environment.

Devil

Had an old customer from 7 years ago in today for a holed and damaged rear window film replacement on a 4WD.

I'm bagging the job because of the unbelievable fading to clear despite the adhesive still being near enough to perfect when he tells me I DID IT.

Had to think quickly on my feet........ "you have one of those spectrally selective high light VLT films don't you?"

The film was Autolux 35% which should be renamed Autolux 80%! More manufacturer bs.

devil

tts,

You hit the nail right on the head mate with that one.

Happens to me often with flat glass. They've never considered tint.....I stir up their loins, they get all hot in the pants, then they do nothing. A few months later it's done and not even a kiss my arse or how do ya do or a like to come back and quote call.

Bastards!

Devil

I was really meaning keeping the cleaning within your own business. Not using outside glass cleaners because as sure as anything they will cotton on to the money to be made and seeing they're half way there with cleaning, they'll be your next film competitor.

Devil

I bet there is nobody on this forum that offers a cleaning maintenace contract of solar films by specialised tinters like ourselves.

It's a market I've often thought about that could be had for the asking because it currently is not done.

A dedicated tint cleaner could pick up new tinting work, new areas to be tinted, staff homes and cars or old film redone.

Anyone else thought about this or am I the only one?

Charge a fortune too so you're not compared with ordinary glass cleaners.

It would also be another good way to get into contracts that you might have lost in the initial bid.

Devil

Recently I've seen some really funny phrases that some of you have used within this tint forum.

One was "we tint where the sun does shine." Not sure now who uttered it but it was very clever and I thought it might be good to start up a topic for future reference.

Any other little pearlers like that around?

Devil

Don't you just hate it when you see one of your low balling competitor's loan cars all smashed up outside some panel beaters shop?

I feel like crying buckets of blood.

Devil

Can anyone give me some ideas of how you clean the remainder of that clear silicone glaziers use when they do a butt join glass edge to glass edge?

I come across this a lot whilst doing white opaque office partition tinting when glass walls are made up of a number of individual panes.

The smear is hard to remove and a new single 1" edge blade finds the going a bit tough especially if the panes don't line up flush with each other.

Devil

Scored again with it Filmhandler only yesterday.

A builder rings up about repairing a huge pane I tinted about 9 years ago for a previous tenant and during the new make-over for the next client, one of his workers dropped a ceiling sheet and scored a huge 30cm scratch right down through the tint.

He notices my sticker and phone number.....wham bam, thank you man......top dollar sale for doing zip on Monday.

Back to the burrow!

Cheers,

Devil.

Need some ideas on the time it takes you tinters to be compensated for film warranty claims.

I'm up to 7 weeks and counting and all the documentation is supplied with faulty film too so there can be no issue or excuse as to why not pay it.

Devil

Is there any money to be made in wholesaling film?

Can't be much because all my distributors cry poor mouth.

Devil

Wondering how many of you tinters have been horribly caught out by film manufacturers who dump popular film lines?

Any cases you might like to share?

devil

Wondering how many of you use terminology and explanations of shading co-efficient figures to crush bs TSER claims put out by your competition?

Really makes me wonder at times how these over the phone figures are substantiated.

devil

Hi Chop,

You shouldn't have too much trouble with these. It is the W124 class hopefully?

I remove trims which is dead easy and quick and gets rid of any chance of dog-earing the bottom edge.

Rear screens are tight at the bottom as access is a bit awkward and some variation in the amount of curve on the flanks does happen from year to year.

Been awhile since I've done one and rubbers are not a chafing problem either.

Devil

For me I will never ever spend time quoting hairdresser's windows.

I find they are the only businesses that muck you around and then never get it done anyway. Typically fly-by-nighters, young with no money.

How about you guys?

devil.

One Sunday avo, I needed something at my factory so down I go to get it.

I get there and where I'm located I'm at the end of my factory complex, (very private and a great spot) there's a strange car right outside my office door in my car space. Not a soul in the whole complex!

He has a sunshield up in the front windshield and one up in the rear......very cloak and dagger stuff but I can't see anyone. Is the guy casing the joint and going to roll me? So I say what the hell to myself and pull up along side, get out and the bod has the seats down is playing hide the sausage with some shiela.

I've died with embarrassment when I've realised the actual. So I've let myself into the factory 5 feet away (what else can you do when you are left hung out to dry?) only to find that the guy must think that this silver film on the glass means I can't see out too.

So after a few minutes of "we're sprung," they decide to pull up stakes and go 2 doors up to re-adjust. That's not so bad except that I'm left with the DNA all over my garden.

I was so pissed, I lock up the joint, jump in the car and pull up alongside this Casanova for the second time (by this time I'm sure he must have thought he was going to have his lights punched out), took his number and threatened him that if he didn't clean up appropriately, I deliver it to his home. Then I left but the threat held good and the plants didn't grow any better thankfully.

Devil

Guys,

I'd like to know how you tinters keep tightly rolled up flat glass film from falling out of your hand.

If I can tell you what happened today.

I had to install 4 windows that were 52"s x 94"s on a 4' ladder. The 52" was the drop therefore the film had to be reversed rolled across the glass.

I can fit this type of install everyday by myself without problem but what peeves me off is that the film and gravity want to let the rolled up film slip out of the curl to the floor.

(This is really a handful especially on such a large sheet. The film being installed was Madico's SRS 220 dry adhesive which is naturally very silky and does not have a tacky surface liner.)

I also tried wetting the internal curl so that the water might tighten the film to itself in order that it might not drop but sadly this doesn't achieve much.

Nothing is worse than trying to catch film on its way to the floor let alone speak of the crease potential.

FBJ,

My vertical application board has on the reverse side of it a huge collection of various tints and stickers I have removed because of faulty dead film. Many companies are no longer in business that did these jobs and many ID the very film it had installed.

This just adds weight to the fact that some customers think all manufacturers produce films that will last forever just like glass because they come with a lifetime warranty.

By at least me displaying these items, I feel I'm trying to put the industry into some sort of honest perspective about what they are potentially buying. No manufacturer makes a distance film that comes close to what they preach IMHO.

Many "value added" or high end sales are achieved off this display.

I was wondering if any of you guys take car photos of bad work that has come into your shop done by other tinters out there in the business?

Helps to reinforce why they should come to a quality tinter in the first place.

I do this but I don't make a point of identifying the culprit.......that is not needed because the example says it all.

I also take photos of flat glass jobs I've lost to the competition that were say installed a couple of years ago to show degraded film and why I lose work to these same competitors based solely on price. It works very well.

Animal.