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2 hours ago, drtint said:

Too many variables when it comes to installing PPF. You can have 2 identical vehicles, sure, the installation may take about the same amount of time, but the prep can add hours between the 2.

This is the truth. You can get a car right off the transport, a bit of prep and good to go. Get another one, and it is covered in rail dust an crap. 2 hours later your just getting ready to lay film.

19 hours ago, highplains said:

Are you just sticking the dyed or have you tried the HP and ceramic? 

I have been using the Color Stable and the Ceramic. 

I like installing it. If you get it get the black series. Has a better color. Shrinks really well, great scratch coat, and great adhesive. 

17 hours ago, breeze29 said:

Thanks  Becky for the feedback. I'm wanna do it by Spring. It's a Jeep Wrangler (jku) so I can skip doing the roof and even use my soft top. I imagine the hood will take most of the sun and heat. I was given an estimate of $2,500. If that doesn't sound right, please someone let me know. I'll shop around if necessary.

At our shop we do very little vinyl wrapping. I do how ever have a couple friends that do it in our area exclusively, and that price would be very low. I do know different regions have different pricing. 

13 hours ago, DynamicAppearance said:

 

We tried selling based on numbers back when we had Huper and usually got a confused look.  It is just too much information for someone to process is such a little time.  Let's just say upsell's were extremely hard because of our approach.  We dropped it when switching to Llumar and now focus on the pros/cons of each film along with the heat lamp.  Our #1 selling film is CTX...it has been over 50% of our sales in the past year and 58% this quarter.  Everyone has their own their own approach, this just works best for us.

I agree here. Goes the same way when going overr what vlt to use with a custy. I keep it quick and simple. The customer always seems confident in what they chose. One of my guy's goes way to complicated with it. Takes a ton of time with the customer, going over every possible combination of vlt known to man.I find with him the customer always leaves questioning if they made the correct choice.

Wow! Very nice workshop.

On 11/12/2017 at 6:31 AM, drtint said:

There is your problem. As long as you will do them for 20% and they are running 99 dollar specials, you are the work horse, which will affect your employment at that business as long as you stay there. 

When I was working on commissions back in the day, it was presented to me exactly that, they were running a 99 sale, I said cool. Average ticket at that time was 175 at 40%, I told them they can have all the specials they want but my percent is off normal shop price not the sales. That is where some shop owners start abusing the art and skill a person has developed over years of perfecting this trade.

If General Motors told their employees they were having a big sale and cutting the assemblers hourly pay to make it happen I don’t think there would be any assembled vehicles to sell.

Exactly! Great post. Not to toot my own horn, but I have never had issue with pay, with any of my installers. I believe it is because I install day in and day out myself. I left commission years ago and went flat rate. That way the installer could care less what I charge. They make the same regardless. I can give a buddy a hook up, or even tint a family members car for free if I choose, with out it effecting the installers pay. But it goes both ways. I can charge a ton if I want also. I have had a couple prospect experienced installers that I have phone interviewed that could not come to terms with the fact that I pay the same for ceramic as I do a NR film. The work does not change. "but you charge more so I should make more" If they can't grasp the concept then I don't think they are the right fit for my shop.Now before anyone gets mad, the ceramic we use installs they same. In fact i like installing it better. If we used a film that took longer to install I would pay more. Now that's just for pay scale. Not saying I haven't had employee issue's in other area's.

12 minutes ago, Tint Slayer said:

Is that the carpet cleaner product?

Yup

12 hours ago, redneckj said:

are people still using spot shot to dissolve tint glue?

I still do. Have not found anything better.

5 hours ago, Jkatfelix said:

Man I'm kinda tempted to do that 

Please don't do this. All you will do is hurt your local market even more, and make your self the $79 guy. That will become your reputation. Then when you you try to up your pricing all those $79 customers you thought you had will find the other guy that is doing the same thing to you. The race to the bottom is real. Start off on a good foundation and build yourself from their. Respect your craft ,and charge what you think you are worth.

19 hours ago, Jkatfelix said:

I have 3 years of exp. What should I be getting paid....some shop offered me 20% commission..I don't like it...I'm used to making 120-150 a day ...btw I'm in socal

Just not enough info. $150 a day? How many cars do you do. If you do one car ,that great, if you do 8, that sucks. 20% is on the lower end, but we have no idea how self sufficient you are.If they charge $500 per car then at 20% you can make a ton of money. To really get any kind of good feed back, it would need to come from someone in your area as it is different everywhere.

I will try it on the next one. Thanks

4 hours ago, watchdaride said:

do you apply it with film on then bag it or is it just for adhesive  removal ? does it soak through the tint . 

Only on the glue. If the tint won;t sweat off, I tint it on top of the old tint and let it dry. Then sweat it again like mentioned above.

16 hours ago, flat rock stan said:

If you get the film off and are left with nasty adhesive try spraying foamy carpet shampoo on the glue then wiping it off. A friend told me this and last week I had a removal that was one of "those " jobs... wow was really impressed!  I got all the glue off the back with defroster grids, both quarters and one door while my wife was blading the other door. Bam....120 bucks in about 8 minutes. I used a spray can of Spot Shot.

Cheers 

Been using spot shot for years. Works better then anything I have tried.

2 hours ago, pbalentine said:

No trades!!

 

Haha! I was just trying to explain this move to my 25 year old employee. He said it sounds dumb.

Painting my house. I always love to trade with restaurant owners also.

So your telling me if my car gets 20mpg I will gain 5mpg, if I use this film?

Is anyone using IR heater while installing PPF? If so what ones are you using, and how has it worked?

18 minutes ago, OZinstaller said:

 

Which is why I find it hard to believe its free. Can you elaborate more on the 'would certainly like an installer to provide 3M PPF'?. What I am getting at is, I become an approved installer, I get access to the database, I then decide not to use 3M film. What happens to my access? surely you are not saying I get to keep using it for free (no penalty) and they do not cut access (i'd consider this a major penalty)?

Each roll of film has a code that has to be entered into the software. That code allows you to cut the amount of square feet of what ever size that roll is.

I'm in Orem. Or if you want to stay in SLC give Cougar a call at Luxe Auto Spa.They are on 33rd.

I have done a hand full of these and cut around the letter. Thought I would try to get them stuck down. Took longer then I thought. Layed the film, them used a syringe in the corner of each letter to let the air escape, and pushed each letter down. Being white helped. 

Where in Utah are you located?

I heated up a Bulldozer and bent it more to give more pressure on the glass. Works a lot better in my opinion. I mostly use my Titan though.

Do a search for ASWF, and you will find most have had issues with every ASWF line.

On 9/2/2017 at 1:54 PM, Ryker said:

If it is at the top could be from key lock box at dealership.

Man I forgot about those. I haven't seen one in years.