Jump to content

Madico and sun Gard question

yorkshiretinting

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 22
  • Created
  • Last Reply
baloochow82

baloochow82

Posted
Posted

I use sungard gp max for my dealer cars, 35 fronts 20 rear, their 5% is pretty reflective but it all shrinks good. for an upgrade and for customers cars in the shop I use sungard Black Pearl, it has great color and shrinks pretty easy. for top of the line customers we use Wincos series, awesome stats, only thing is you have to know how to install what I call rice paper as the film is super thin, the liner is almost twice as thick but nice thing is you can get almost twice as much for this film compared to a standard tint job.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Tintguy1980

Tintguy1980

Posted
Posted

Madico's seems to  have always been happy with their standing in the industry and have been in film for as long as I can remember. If I were not happy with the top film brand at my place of business I would be looking their way or to Solar Gard (a brand I sold for many years with loyalty). Just my take.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TintJunkie

TintJunkie

Posted
Posted

I started my career in window tinting using Madico films, 14 years ago. I started out doing auto, and ventured into flat glass, and I was all Madico. Everything was great until about 2-3 years ago. After the acquisition of Sun Gard, all of their films changed, and not for the better.

I was seeing CharCOOL fail in 2 years, and flat glass films fail or come out of the box with inconsistencies. I have seen 8mil clear film look like it was produced on a beach fresh out of the box. Typically, it would be half of the roll (one half of the width) would look good, and the other half was trash. Color on the CharCOOL film changed, which made the occasional broken car window impossible to match, and CharCOOL never failed...never. It was our bread and butter film.

Some of the reason why I got out of the automotive market was because of Madicos films. I tried to replace with a diff manny, but was too used to my tried and true CharCOOL.

I expressed my concerns to my "rep" but it fell on deaf ears. Any time I came in on here to express my concerns, was the only time Mr Stewart or someone else from Madico would contact me.

I finally got fed up with being told if anything, the film was better, so I dropped Madico early this year. I occasionally buy film from them today.

Madico for a while has followed my posts here, so if they are reading this.....

I am the end user. I see problems and inconsistencies before you do. I'm not in business to remove film that my company installed due to premature failure. It looks bad on my name. As opposed to petting my head, you chose to make me out to look like a fool. You should have listened to your customers. I'm small peas compared to a lot of other dealers that I know, and they fled from you for the same issues, far sooner than I did. Your film is different. You even put damn near all film in a Sun Gard box. I lost the First-CUT name because of you clowns, as I was told I couldn't buy it any more, so even though I was a dealer, I had to buy CharCOOL as a name and not under First-CUT, which ended up costing me more, all bc of the Enpro/Madico split. Your new film is crap.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
RockyDaz

RockyDaz

Posted
Posted

I started my career in window tinting using Madico films, 14 years ago. I started out doing auto, and ventured into flat glass, and I was all Madico. Everything was great until about 2-3 years ago. After the acquisition of Sun Gard, all of their films changed, and not for the better.

I was seeing CharCOOL fail in 2 years, and flat glass films fail or come out of the box with inconsistencies. I have seen 8mil clear film look like it was produced on a beach fresh out of the box. Typically, it would be half of the roll (one half of the width) would look good, and the other half was trash. Color on the CharCOOL film changed, which made the occasional broken car window impossible to match, and CharCOOL never failed...never. It was our bread and butter film.

Some of the reason why I got out of the automotive market was because of Madicos films. I tried to replace with a diff manny, but was too used to my tried and true CharCOOL.

I expressed my concerns to my "rep" but it fell on deaf ears. Any time I came in on here to express my concerns, was the only time Mr Stewart or someone else from Madico would contact me.

I finally got fed up with being told if anything, the film was better, so I dropped Madico early this year. I occasionally buy film from them today.

Madico for a while has followed my posts here, so if they are reading this.....

I am the end user. I see problems and inconsistencies before you do. I'm not in business to remove film that my company installed due to premature failure. It looks bad on my name. As opposed to petting my head, you chose to make me out to look like a fool. You should have listened to your customers. I'm small peas compared to a lot of other dealers that I know, and they fled from you for the same issues, far sooner than I did. Your film is different. You even put damn near all film in a Sun Gard box. I lost the First-CUT name because of you clowns, as I was told I couldn't buy it any more, so even though I was a dealer, I had to buy CharCOOL as a name and not under First-CUT, which ended up costing me more, all bc of the Enpro/Madico split. Your new film is crap.

Nice, honest appraisal TJ. :thumb

Manny's all over should listen more to the people on the ground. I have been told before by a rep that the film is fine and my skills must need improving :eye

Despite offering to put their film and any number of competitors film on a back glass and demonstrate to him how his film doesn't shrink or handle anywhere near as well as the others.

We don't expect miracles, but please treat us with a bit of respect or lose our business. And tinters talk to other tinters hmmm. :evileye

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing
  •   Sponsored by
    tinttek

    filmvinyldesigns

    ride wrap

    Lexen

    tintwiz

    auto-precut.com

    signwarehouse

    martinmetalwork.com

  • Activity Stream

    1. 0

      Seeking residential/commercial window tint installer in Las Vegas, NV

      Las Vegas window tint company seeking to hire window tint installers for residential & commercial in Las Vegas. We are a reputable company that has been in the industry for many years. Serious inquiries only please. Window Tint Films LV (702) 483-4394 admin@windowtintfilmslv.com
      Window Tint Films LV in Classifieds • Employment • Marketplace
    2. 0

      Austin, TX - Experienced Window Tinters - Full Time- $1000 Signing Bonus - W2 - Year Round Work - Willing to Relocate

      Company Background: Auto Tinting Austin LLC is a 5-Star rated Window Tinting business established in 2013. We offer high quality products, expert installation and excellent customer service. We Offer: -A Very Positive and Supportive Work Atmosphere -Consistent Work Year Round -Very Competitive Pay -Air Conditioned Bay -Tool Allotment -Snacks and Lunches -$1000 Sign On Bonus -Willing to Assist in Relocating the Right Candidate -Porter and Tint Shop Support Team -Plotter, Bottles, Shampoo Etc All Provided Job Duties: Seeking experienced window tinting technician to install automotive window film. Experience with plotter and hand cutting. Ability to operate manual vehicles for parking and moving. Will work with a helper team that can step in to cut film, move cars, remove film. Positive atmosphere. Hours: Schedule is open Monday-Saturday. Pay: $1000 Sign on Bonus! $1000-$2500+/Week Full Time, $300-600/Day Part Time ---BASE PAY AND TIPS!! Please call to schedule interview. 512-956-8468 Manager: Jody/Aric Auto Tinting Austin LLC 1601 Bench Mark Dr. Ste C Austin, TX 78728 www.AutoTintingAustin.com Job Type: Full-time Job Type: Part-time Pay: $1500-$2500+/Week Full Time, $300-600/Day Part Time
      AutoTintingAustinLLC in Classifieds • Employment • Marketplace
    3. 1

      Stratos 70 on windshield, what is this?

      Captain Obvious has two cents err senses to share: 1) The film should be removed and replaced, because it appears to have adhesive blemishes that shouldn't be there, and 2) The film should be reviewed/inspected once taken from the roll to avoid losing time and resources due to manufacturing issues. Little pieces not so much, but back glass and windscreen pieces ... definitely.
      Tintguy1980 in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    4. 7

      Automotive Tint Comparison

      By the way how much coverage would I achieve from 1524mm x 3000mm (i.e. 60" x 118")
      MVOZ in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    5. 4

      Olfa blades are not as sharp as they used to be

      thanks for the input, going to try the nt blades
      qttire1 in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    6. 4

      Olfa blades are not as sharp as they used to be

      I switched so long ago... first to KDS but they went away. NT are great though. I use a piece of white strapping material as a cutting buffer between the blade and glass. Some use a button but I didn't like the feel..
      Ryker in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    7. 0

      Headlight Taillight Vinyl question... (Looking for CHROME)

      I'm looking for a chrome/mirror wrap for headlights/taillights. No NEOchrome, just a mirror or chrome appearance. Looking to spice up a project. Looking for transparent so can see lights thru film. I have looked and can't find what fits the bill. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
      moddedw204 in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    8. 1

      Stratos 70 on windshield, what is this?

      I can't win with getting tint decent on the windshield. I had 3M on my F150 done twice and still has major defects. Recently did Stratos twice on my F350 and I see this granular spotted, texture pattern on the tint. It's super obvious in the corner here but also right in my view when driving. It's honestly hard to point out and show someone but when your driving and stuff is moving behind the windshield, it becomes more obvious. The lighting also matters. The first time I did the windshield, I had a two foot line on the windshield. Thinking it was tint, they removed the tint and it was apparently a defect in the Ford windshield. An issue between the laminated glass layers caused this big defect. So they removed the tint, I had Ford replace the windshield on a 2024 F350 but when the tint shop removed the tint, they made a bunch of micro scratches in the front windshield, probably from scrapping the glue off. I told them but I didn't care since Ford was replacing the windshield anyways. So if basically I'm trying to figure out what this texture stuff is and if I should have them replace or remove it. Replacing it might just have different issues but also afraid they will scratch the windshield.
      dseg42 in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    9. 1

      Wtb Solar Gard Supreme NR 40

      I would direct you to Express Window Films web site. They sell Global brand after setting up an account with them. They are reasonably priced and they do partials. Can't go wrong with Global.
      Tintguy1980 in Window Tinting - General Discussion
    10. 6

      Need some help

      Never overlook the condition of the floor. Back when I did install, I used to mist the floor between the vehicle and the peel board. This is done between misting the window and walking toward the peel board to mist the pattern liner, peel liner and spray adhesive for install. Tacks any dust for the duration of each pattern install, so repeat each time a pattern is going to be installed.
      Tintguy1980 in Window Tinting - General Discussion
×
×
  • Create New...