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42 minutes ago, Privacy Film Company said:
Looks awesome..Printed on Clear Frost ? ....I like the reflection of the cut tint rolls too 😂
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46 minutes ago, Privacy Film Company said:
I heard Privacy Film Company is an award winning film supplier!
But of course lol
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We got the exact same one, yes it's fake. But a great deal of these "awards" that companies hang on their walls ar just that..fake. They will have a marketing company generate cookie cutter plaques and those who buy them...then claim they are " award winning" bla bla bla. ..One very large construction company up here does this as a routine.. virtually very single entity involved is "award winning" ..Award winning, builders, Award winning architecture, Award winning sales team, Award winning customer service......Award winning dumpster emptier.... you get the idea... it's simply a marketplace gimmick and you would be amazed how many companies do it, and how many people fall for the BS.
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On 1/9/2020 at 8:09 PM, alberts316 said:
https://dirty-tools.com/product/the-dirty-pouch/
I'll give one of these a try. Almost three times the cost of shadys, but looks like good quality.
My wife uses one of those for a pouch, but all she does is prep.. I find it small.. but never the less..you will get a feel for the quality. IMO, get the normal size one fit FG installs.
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11 hours ago, alberts316 said:
Not sure what up with the site today...Midtown your boy Mike doesn't even have a working website 🤣 How am I supposed to know what these things look like inside the pouch or price? C'mon Mike it's 2020 get it together!
I can vouch for Mikes pouches, we have 3 of them.....hands down the best on the market...and we have had them all. His are laid out beautifully...pricy but worth the money.
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6 minutes ago, Bham said:
Yes sir, the laminate essentially keeps the glass from resonating or vibrating. Also being a plastic material the extra layer will scatter sound waves (a bit).
BUT, Not very effective for direct sound waves such as radios or sirens but slightly more effective than plain glass. It keeps down road noise but a lot of that noise is due to vibration and wind travel not direct sound waves.
I just don't see it being very effective for dogs barking without A LOT of it being used. Hence,, more mass.
Different sounds resonate at different frequencies. I have no idea what the science is behind any of them. I would suspect that what is being used in OE auto is engineered to mitigate wind and other low frequency noises. But probably not sirens or horns that are high frequency and DB.
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On 1/4/2020 at 11:23 AM, Bham said:
Window Tint will fix the heat problems, but not the sound. Sound had to be blocked or absorbed by "mass". Soundproof glass works because of the thickness of it. Same with soundproof foam. It absorbs sound when it travels through the foam.
Window tint does not have the mass necessary to be functional as a sound deadening device.
Most of the sound deadning material out there has multiple angles and depth contours that absorb different wavelengths of sound.
Lately the OEM auto mfrs have been using laminated glass instead of tempered to make the cabin of their cars more quiet. For a retrofit soundproofing measure..PPF can be used and it's actually pretty effective.
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10 hours ago, MikeMN said:
Well I got the job done,this was the least favorite job I have Ever done to say the least. Now they want 10 more installed. the first job was 34. What I have found installing this film is that the amount of slip that they recommended will not work on all types of glass, as you all know film will react differently on different glass, as far as sticking faster. I ended up using more slip on this glass, it was 1/2" then laminate and then 1/4" because the rooms were conference rooms so I imagine the glass used was for noise cancellation. I also used some llumar cdf film slightly larger than the film installed for an overlay so not to scratch the non hard coat Casper film while installing, this film scratches by almost just looking at it,if a hard coat was used on this film it would not work. As far as pre-cutting this film,I cut all of the film on a glass table and made several passes with a new olfa blade with very little pressure till i cut through the film to get a decent edge. rolled the film up with the liner side out with a min 3" diameter. Sure wish I could post some pics of the job, however when i try and post pics on here it says the file is too large.
we have installed that film a few times. ...Wont do it anymore, its just not worth the time and aggrivation
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So you are technically another converter, not a Mfr.
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If you decide to get into FG, I have a few tips. First, examine your market. Are you looking toward residential or commercial. If you are green in FG, starting in resi is a better option. Commercial contractors won't give you the time of day if you can't perform, carry significant insurance, and have a problem waiting for money. With resi, first thing to do is clean up your act. Far too. Any "tinters" show up in some type of Honda of Toyota with wheels that look like they are on broken axles, Sterio blasting some Snoop Dog crap, and dress like they should be selling a 50 rock in some back ally. People don't want this on their property let alone in their home.
Dress like you are going to a job interview...where you really want the job. You must learn, know and understand your product, as well as every other product your competitors offer. Know the pros and cons of all of them and be ready to explain them in a way a 5 year old can understand to the homeowner. Know what the different glass types are and how film effects them, know what your costs goin in are and what your costs going out will be. Be able to show the homeowner how the film will work and benefit them via some solar tool. IE BTU meter, heat lamp, UV card etc. Have nice, well laid out and glossy pamphlets that back up your sales pitch that you can give to the homeowner.. Bring pieces of film with you that you can actually install on the glass if needed so the customer can see it on their home.
This business is such a blind purchase transaction, what this means is that it is really no different than being a painter, carpet installer or even a mattress salesman. People are buying blind, they have no idea how paint, film, carpet of mattresses are made... And they really don't care. They just want someone to solve a problem.
I can go on for days about this but it's basic business sence and practices.
..Now Commercial.... Which is our primary business, is a different animal entirely. On the front end making the initial contacts it's similar to resi. Meaning you need to show a strong knowledge of product and present your business in the most favorable light possible. But after that it's all about the numbers and performance. Commercial contractors don't give a shit if you are "the best" .. They want you to get in, get out, and not mess up their hair. Just do your job, quickly, as cheap as possible and without causing them any problems.
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A film handler would make your life easier, but you can also use a paper cutter. I don't like the style that was poster earlier, I like the rotary ones much better. I would cut them to the exact width you need and leave it long on the bottom, and only trim that 1 edge. Clean the glass better than you think you need too...then. Do it again.
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We started a R&R of 15 year old silver 20 with CDF today. Got 70 pieces 24x80 done today and another 70 to do tomorrow. Then repeat next weekend. ...way big fun....
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11 hours ago, Roach said:
Did you just straight RR or did you use a dowel or something to assist in it unrolling? I've seen people mention using that method as well.....
Just manually unrolled it as I walked down the ladder. ..spraying the glass as I went.
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We did a job this am, 12 pieces 56x108 with white frost .. the top of the glass was about 13' off the floor. RR all of them, those 12 pieces and 6 others of misc size, took us ( 1 cleaner and 1 installer ) about 3.5 hrs.
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7 hours ago, Roach said:
Sometimes I wish I was just like 2" taller and another 2-3" on my wingspan.
I'm 6-2" and probably a 5-8" wingspan. Honestly it doesn't make any difference when you reverse roll things. Just start the rr manually for about the first 18" , roll it back up , stick it on the glass and keep the window real wet. ... we do security film pieces 60x100 solo all the time.
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Reverse roll it... we do it all the time. Keep the glass extra wet and slippery.
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9 hours ago, flat rock stan said:
Dang, hate to hear they are gone. We will probably see a few more re-boxers disappear in the near future with the boom in numbers / names the last couple years.
......you can take that prediction to the bank....I could also see a large supplier....moving on..
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6 hours ago, DynamicATL said:
This is the Obsidian 35, only did the rear window since it was a sample.
In not a car guy anymore...but is that film thick ? ..it looks like poo poo on the defroster lines....and also looks a bit shiny ...?
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On November 7, 2019 at 11:37 AM, DynamicATL said:
Obsidian and Color Stable are both 1-ply films that are 2-2.5mil thick which is why they shrink different than a traditional 2-ply film like FX PM. I am not sure about Ceramic IR, but will find out Friday and will post here. I'm just hoping the color looks closer to regular films...I didn't like the color of Obsidian.
Give them 6 months and they will all match anyway...purple lol
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20 minutes ago, MikeMN said:
I have a job next week installing the Casper Cloaking Technology Film, anyone installed this film before......?.........What are your thoughts on install.
I have done a fair amount of it..Is is a test of my patience every time. if you are installing on butt glazed glass, make 1000% certain the caulking is completely gone, no residue left behind at all. Otherwise it will curl and finger forever. Very little slip is needed and bump the edges with a dry towel multiple times. I like using a blue max in a 8' channel with a extension in the end like I'm doing 8mil. ....that film simply sucks.
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On November 21, 2019 at 10:06 AM, Sterling said:
I've been tinting for around three years, started out in a shop doing cars and later moved onto more residential/commercial work. I now have my own side-business apart from my day job doing solely residential/commercial work. Every single client I've gotten has been from a walk-in and selling it to them on the spot. I've got a website and SEO on my pages but all it seems to generate are calls about tinting cars!
I'm in a rather populated city with construction everywhere, so the market for commercial jobs is abundant but hard to get in touch with contractors who are willing to give the new guy in town a chance.
I agree with Roach, analyze the market surrounding you and focus on the one that fits best. Any time you drive or go anywhere keep on the lookout for buildings or neighborhoods that could use some tint. Also, don't be afraid to do some in-person sales to the ones you see!
It's not often that you are going to get called from a contractor out of the blue. More often than not you need to make the first contact... A box of donuts and a few large coffees usually softens the cold call. I have said this several times here over the years, and will again. Commercial work is all about get in, get out, and don't cause the GC any headaches. They really don't give a shit if you are "the best" ..they just want you to get in, get out and don't cause them any headaches. In fact they want this and..for you to be low bid. Otherwise it's the next man up. Commercial work is great, it's the lion share of what we do. But there is often more paperwork involved than tinting work. Our insurance is also incredibly comprehensive .. And expensive.. All this said, we have a company who does our web SEO and hosting. It honestly generates almost zero commercial prospects. ..we get the typical clown who calls and says "Yo..how much u get to put tints on mi ride" ...
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We were just at the print expo in Dallas last month, looked at a Dye Sub printer... Still on the fence about it. It's not terribly expensive to get into it...but just have to create a whole new customer base.
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Most tint shops that have been around for a hike have found their niche. Meaning that some guys have stayed with auto because it's the client base they have built. If they have graduated to resi and then commercial, many of those guys will ditch auto all together. I think I have only seen one large commercial outfit go backwards and get into auto..and it's not going well. This is the difficulty you run into with SEO for window film, it has to be very targeted and you need to know more about the customer than the business. What is the. ideal customer looking for ? If it's a auto customer, they may just google car tinting near me. A homeowner may search something like UV making my furniture fade, a commercial customer may look for energy efficient Windows. ....there are numerous variables
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2 minutes ago, tintittowinit said:
oh...... 😂
So both only lasted for like 3 years then it was replaced? Was it a skylight or a vertical installation?
How thick do you usually seal it? and as a rule of thumb how long (days) do you wait before sealing it?
And would you know how much ft. a 300ml seal lasts based on your experience?
Bud...you gotta just go take the info from the past 12 replies and piece together your answers. ..
What did you tint today?
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