ErieTint

#1 By: @jh812
"Waiting area coming along added some pics from my grandads old garage."

Tintdude doesn't allow a lot of t&a and trust me that's a lot of A.

Should just close it now and make @Super Dave and @Tint Artist co-winners.
 
The 944 in one piece is pretty damn impressive but that graphic..... 

Should just close it now and make @Super Dave and @Tint Artist co-winners.
 
The 944 in one piece is pretty damn impressive but that graphic..... 

I know right, had to throw that one down against my 1 piece 944!

Yeah, I messaged him a couple of shops to look at along with our old tinters new workplace.

1990 Porsche 944
20% ceramic all the way 
I forgot to get a picture of it put back together and completely finished, but you guys get it, it’s on there!

I don't want them to be to comfortable

If you're getting two hours for a set of front roll ups I would say a sun roof would be about an hour.

Those sound like fair numbers to me.
 
Not pushing the installer super hard and as you grow and learn cars your speed will progress similar to a mechanic.

Those sound like fair numbers to me.
 
Not pushing the installer super hard and as you grow and learn cars your speed will progress similar to a mechanic.

I save them and use them to sword fight customers or other people that happen to randomly walk by on the street.  

Here's some pictures 

That's kind what I was thinking. This job is just over 100 square feet so its relatively small. I have a house to go look at a bay window in for a guy thats something like 32 square feet. Almost not worth my time unless I crank up the square foot price.
 
 
I wouldn't expect to be rushed putting together a detailed quote. The people that get me are the ones that want a ball park right this second while they have you on the phone. I told the guy with the house I mention above a price and he said that sounded high. Had a guy quote him "limo" tint for his bay window at a total of $200. Well, I'm not gonna race that guy to $0. Plus, if he wants to install a very dark automotive film on a home window, more power to him. I quoted him a ball park of about double that but explained all of the variables. He says "the other guy didn't mention any of this or ask any of these questions." Shocker there... Needless to say, Tuesday I am going to the house to show him samples and take my own measurements.
 
 
I do that now in automotive. I honestly think its just part of being in business. How many pieces of trim did that carpenter scrap before he got everything right while trimming out a house? How many times did the painter touch up an area on a wall that he missed or touched or whatever? It happens. We as professionals have to work through those instances and minimize their frequency.
 
Thanks for the help everyone. Everyone here has been an inspiration in the time I have been doing this. If it weren't for Tint Dude I would probably be back in an office some where hating what I do and who I do it for. Wouldn't that just suck!??! 
 

It take many yrs of experience to get this right....till this day I hit myself in the head and be like fuuucckk... Just made a mistake on a job and quote a tech film Casper (18k just for this film) for cost and got the job....come to find out, I broke even on it... but made $5 per sq ft on 4800 sq ft. on deco film. 
 
so I got lucky to win the job on making nothing on a small part of the job...

I can see the times when doing something like that would be good - but I've never had anyone question why it was taking me as much time as it did to work up a quote. Maybe for a ball park figure.. but regardless of the quote, you'd still need measurements to make sure you have enough film. (Unless you keep film in stock - I don't tend to do that very often - which maybe I'm in the minority with that regard )
 
 

Pricing projects correctly comes with experience. The 200 SF job that you are bidding may take a veteran 60 minutes to complete on site, where if could take a newbie all day. I don't know your level of experience but I'm assuming that if you are asking about pricing a 100-200 sf job..you are a bit green. There are many variables to factor in, and everyone's business structure is different. IMO, if you are just starting out in FG and have aspirations to grow that sector of your market, figure out what your hard cost and soft cost of opening your doors as well as what margin you need to be sustainable and profitable.. then go from there. 

I only order it in a 25' length roll so it won't cost much to sit on the shelf.

Im starting to price per pane.  I’ll do sq/ft first and adjust.  I want to com up with a few size categories for under 36” and over, then 48”, 60” 72”.  For example most arcadia are under 36” and some need the 48”. Last auto job i did the guy wanted an FG estimate. Glanced at it and quoted it in like 10 seconds.  Just quicker and i dont get peanuts for small windows. 

I have settled on 3 tier pricing for sqft depending on the size of the job.  I have double digits for smaller jobs under 250 sqft, slightly under double digits for medium jobs under 500 sqft, and a couple of bucks less for larger jobs above 500 sqft.  The customer can pick from 4 types of window films I offer all for the same price.  Then I add charges for ladder use, driving distance, additional people needed, etc.

I never list anything separate... just a grand total. (Unless they want, say a bedroom they aren't sure about - I'll list that on it's own) So I'll get the total sq/ft... and the price I want to charge per sq/ft.. so lets say that total is $750... then I add my truck roll charge, say $150.. and give them the total amount of $900. I don't leave measurements with them... or per window charges, etc. Nothing that they could give someone else over the phone which would allow another tint shop to quote. If they want to get other quotes - fine... no problem. But the other shop is going to have to come out and measure for themselves.
 
 
My range is $6-$12 for standard films... more for deco stuff according to how much the film costs. Some films are crazy expensive... others not so much.
 
 
I think I need to do that. I actually need to redo my pricing somewhat. I'm hoping to get the guy I use to install to start doing estimates... in which case I wanna have pricing better structured.

 

There are different ways to quote... I personally quote based on sq/ft for normal windows.  If they are individual panes, I price those per pane. Skylights I price according to it being a skylight - ie. not sq/ft, but how high it is, the size, how many, etc.
 
I have a truck roll charge for every job. This covers things like gas, wear and tear on the truck, tolls, tools, paper towels, etc.
 
Ladder work is more then ground level windows.
 
As far as how long it would take to tint them - no way to even guess. Condition of windows/frames, size, film being used, etc. all would factor into that. Plus, the older I get, the slower I've gotten.
 
 
 

Luckily those are relatively small windows to start you out with so shouldn't be too bad. I always price off of square footage but factor in things like wood frames, if a ladder is required, and of course material used. As far as time hell I still have a hard time figuring that out whenever I'm unsure I schedule something later in the day with potential calling them to come in earlier. On those two they could potentially be totally different. Car dealership you should be able to walk right up to without moving stuff. The restaurant however could look something like the below with customers in and out. Always think longer than expected with hopes of finishing sooner. 
 
 

bottom loading is the only way to go.  so much easier and cleaner.