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Correct me if I'm wrong but, they're dead on identical in terms of gloss, clarity and orange peel- hence the lawsuit. However, the adhesive on the 3M feels stronger, it's tackier. You can't pull as much on the 3M, pull marks/ghosting happens quicker than XPEL, but it doesn't tear as easily as XPEL. Anything else I'm missing?
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What do you guys do to prep that paint before PPF? We normally wax the surface on normal paint but you can't do that here. Last week we had one come in and got a partial kit but later decided to go with the full. Removing the 48 hour install left a little adhesive behind and I was afraid to use normal adhesive remover so I just rolled it off with my fingers. But what if a bunch was left behind? I'm just about afraid to ever do another one until I know how removals will be years from now.
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Xpel does it again! 1 2 3
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So I have been doing a certain high end dealership for about 5 years, and out of the blue this xpel rep stops at my shop and I was out on a commercial job as we do all that too and he talks to one of my employees about switching films to Xpel , we use SunTek and are happy with there product, well a few weeks go by and ive heard through the grape vine that the Xpel rep had gone to one of my competitors in town and set them all up and stole my account, ive been using xpel for years and theses guys are solargard true cut all day and I doubt they pay for both programs, just a shot out there at what Xpel is up to!
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Adding ppf to my tinting business. Looking for input on top 3 brands y'all would recommend. I'm starting with llumar.
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Have any of you guys worked or heard about Clear guard Nano by Prestige Films?
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3M 55ft. Of 30" PPF
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55 ft. Of 30" from 120 ft. Roll. We have made some changes and went with different vendors and will not use it. 550.00 I will even throw in the shipping. Message me Have a Great Day
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Got an Audi A7 coming in for PPF in an hour and I looked through our plotter software to get the patterns pulled up and theres like 10 different trims levels. How am I supposed to figure out which one it is? It doesn't normally say what trim level it is on the little sticker inside the drivers door does it?
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i need a pattern for a BMW 220i 2017, some one has it?
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It seems as so in my market. Everyone is talking Spray on ppf (like plastic dip process) or ceramic top coats (wax like applications) Seem to be winning. I have never dove strongly into the PPF market but have been doing it for 2-3 years. I am very good at it and would say my installations are top notch. However, my hands and finger joints just get pissed off doing it so I don't push it heavily. But I do enjoy it just not every day because my hands won't let me. What are you guys techniques for combating sales when fronted with these two products listed above. I sell Xpel ultimate and my prices might be considered high for people who only do PPF. I would …
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I have installed the matte film on matte paint but not on gloss. I have a customer that wants a full car done to give it a matte paint look. My question is ,can you see gloss on the slight edge of say a relief cut on a bumper or things like that? I will cover and wrap everything I can.Would you say it adds a lot of labor when going over gloss paint with matte? Thinking I will have to pull a lot of parts to get the most seemless install posible.
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Looking for PPF trainer for around 3 days + in Thailand to train us and our customers. We have some experience in wrapping small areas such as door cup, door sills, headlights, side mirror etc.. For other large and complex area we would need help from experienced installer, and we would like to be able to do it free hand (not using pre-cut film). If you are in Thailand or coming to Thailand, this would be a great opportunity. If you are in some other places, let's discuss how we could work it out. Please PM some information about yourself, your work and also your daily rate, and we will take it from there. Thanks Ben
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We're adding PPF to our service lineup this week. Where would you guys say most of your work comes from? Dealerships? Upsells on detailing or tint? For you shop owners, where do you advertise? Google Adwords doesn't seem to show hardly any searches for PPF so I'm trying facebook ads to start, to see if that peaks any interest. I've gotten very good at reaching my target market on all of our other services (tint, detail, remote start, vinyl etc) and just want to make sure I get a good start on selling this $X,--- investment in PPF material hahaha
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Hello everyone, After all, what is the origin of PPF? Some say it was invented for military purposes during the Vietnam War, others say it was during the Gulf War... I would really like to know the true story. Greetings, Farrier
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Hi everyone. I just wanted to let the group on here know that we are launching a new technology at SEMA this year. You've got it right, 1 week away and we are excited about it. If you are planning on heading to SEMA this year, please come by the booth #12565. If you want to try a sample, please don't hesitate to contact me directly with your contact info. My email is below in the signature. Here is a little video we did a little while back to showcase some of the qualities of the product. We look forward to the launch and hope you like what we've been working on.
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I will be getting XPEL ultimate for my new car and will be using this car for autocross and the occasional track day. Before I get the full frontal of the car PPFed I will send it to the detailer's to get perfect paint. What I was wondering is should I get the paint under the PPF ceramic coated or not? Thanks, Chris
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I'm going to spare you the details right now and ask for your professional opinions. The car is a 2016 Shelby GT350. The car was perfect with 150 miles on it at delivery to the shop that did this PPF install. The wrap over the stripes were done in pieces; 5 pieces each on the hood, roof, trunk. EDIT: If you can't zoom into the pictures below, try this link. Hand trimming the film has damaged the stripe and likely the paint underneath. I recognize that this is a good compound curve. I'm willing to let this go. Edge is lifting where I paid extra to have the edges rolled. Debris, and lots of it under the A pillar wrap. There was no reason to use multipl…
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Is it good product and where I can order to open my own shop to installed
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I need ppf bulk rolls for competitive price can any one help ?
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After xpel is such?xpel company Doesn't anybody know this product?Why did no one explain it?
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Hello guys. Considering that matte painted cars have been on the rise and owners using more ppf, any experiences in what happens when you try to remove the film? There are many ideas of what may happen, but do any of you have real world experience? I have XPEL Stealth on my Designo matte paint, and although it was just installed over the entire car, I'm thinking about the long term. Have PPF which I installed on the front only of my regular glossy painted car back in 2005 which has started to crack. Don't want the same thing to happen across my entire matte car. I'm hoping that the PPF technology has improved over the past 10 years. And yes I did place car polish over …
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In the United States who know this product?Xpel can tell you their company have this product?This is ridiculous What is the xpel-titanpro
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We're in the market for a plotter, and also the best pattern cutting software. We've gotten samples and precut kits that didn't fit as well as expected. Are complete wrap-around kits more popular these days? We're looking for the best possible cut kits we can do ourselves. Thanks in advance!
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anybody can help me access to DAP? thanks!
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DIGICUT REP JUS CAME BY AND SHOWED ME THEIR NEW VERSION OF FILM NIGHT AND DAY COMPARE TO THEIR OLD STUFF,HAS ANYBODY TRY THIER NEW VERSION?I USE TO USED THEM BUT THEIR OLD STUFF WAS CRAP BUT THE NEW VERSION IS WAY BETTER AND I HAVE USED XPEL CURRENTLY IM USING SUNTEK I TELL YOU WHAT IT GOES ON PRETTY NICE AND THE FINISH LOOK ON THE CAR IS AMAZING BETTER THAN BOTH OTHER BRAND I BEEN USING.I DONT KNOW WHAT DIGICUT BEEN DOING BUT THEY HAVE BEEN CATHING UP WIT THE TIMES AND SEEM TO BE TRYING TO BE AHEAD OF THE GAME.I MIGHT BE GIVING TO MUCH CREDIT TO FAST TO DIGICUT NEW FILM BUT ONLY TIME WILL TELL NEVER HURT FOR SOME COMPETITION BECAUSE ITS ALL GOOD FOR THE INDUSTRY!!!!!
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Just barely clipped the side of the garage with my side mirror pulling in today and the protective film got a bit roughed up. It's only about 1/3-1/2 inch on the tip of the mirror. It's not peeled up, but sort of scratched/bubbled up. Is there any way to fix it or should I just redo the whole mirror?
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These new 2017 have "SUPER DUTY" stamped into the front edge of the hood. I was able to get the film to lay down inside the lettering but it was time consuming compared to previous models. I hate you even more now Ford.
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PPF Depot is proud to be the only PPF Distributor/Reseller in the US to offer a dual factory authorized PPF Certification Training Course. That's right!! You can receive two factory certifications in our Special Four Day Course featuring plenty of hands on training on two great brands - DuraShield Titan by Sharpline and Nano-Fusion by CCL. Register Now! Our next class is scheduled for August 29 - September 1st, 2016 and space is limited. Single certification - $995.00* per person ($300.00 deposit is required). Class is three days. Double certification - $1495.00* for person ($500.00 deposit is required). Class is four days. *Bulk ro…
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Did I understand this right? http://www.windowfilmmag.com/2016/09/3m-sells-its-temporary-paint-protection-film-business/
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I have recieved samples from a company in china for ppf how do i test them the thickness is same as 3M and the adhesive is same to is there any way to check the durability of ppf installation is easy to but their price is cheaper then other ppf films it has a nice shine to
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Hi guys, I had called their international direct line to order but seems all 3 sales like Ashley, Jerry are never listen to their phone/reply emails, hows you guys get in touch with this company?
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Ever since I got in this business, filming race cars has always been one of my favorite parts. Did most work in exchange for decals on the car and every once in a while I'd get to see my logo on TV. Other benefits were pictures of the car would be used by the other sponsor's promotions so sometimes I never knew where I was getting some exposure....like this die cast model car I saw last night of a car I filmed four years ago!
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Anyone know where to get Suntek PPF in Canada? Currently using 3M Pro Series... I have heard Suntek is way easier to install, just want to try it out so buying by the foot would be ideal. Thanks
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Hi, A customer wants to install PPF entire car, he made application glass coating, PPF can be installed on top of this product? Thanks
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Anyone having issues with these hoods? I have one I've done twice now and it wants to lift in the valley closest to the middle. The outer valleys are staying down fine. It's frustrating to say the least.
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greetings, I was looking at ebay and few other places and it seems pretty expensive at $38 per foot for a 60" wide Xpel Ultimate. 44tools had the best price I could find but they seem to be out of stock for a 60" wide film, and they didn't know when they'll have it in stock. From my rough measurements, I need about 35-40' to cover the entire car. It's my first new car (3 series) so it might be bit of an OCD, but I like learning new things and I already covered front bumper, mirrors and fenders with the precut kit. So anyone have any suggestions where I could buy 60" by the foot for a good price? I might even buy the whole roll if the price is right. Not sure how diff…
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Automotive Tint Comparison
I forgot to ask about Low Angle Haze (LAH), do any particular films have less LAH than others? Is LAH so much of a problem that it's better to avoid ceramic tint and go another kind of tint like SunTek CXP (CarbonXP) CXP -
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At What VLT% does visibility start being impacted
In the jurisdiction in which I live, we are allowed to have 35% in front and 20% in rear. I'm wondering @ what VLT% does the driver's visibility in adverse conditions like night time driving, storms, cloudy weather, fog, floods, etc., start being impacted? Front side windows: 45.00% 43.00% 42.00% 41.00% 40.00% 39.00% 38.00% 37.00% 36.00% 35.00% Rear Side Windows: 38.00% 33.00% 32.00% 31.00% 30.00% 29.00% 27.00% 25.00% 23.00% 22.00% 21.00% 20.00% Rear Window: 45.00% 43.00% 42.00% 41.00% 40.00% 39.00% 38.00% 37.00% 36.00% 35.00% 33.00% 32.00% 31.00% 30.00% 29.00% 27.00% 25.00% 23.00% 22.00% 21.00% 20.00%- Visibility
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Automotive Tint Comparison
If the only tinter providing MEP Films is a mobile tinter that uses more water than normal and I don't have a garage to tint in then would you avoid the tinter and opt for a tinter with a workshop that uses either: SunTek CIR (CeramicIR) CIR SunTek CXP (CarbonXP) CXP SunTek Evolve Solargard VTX Pro Premium Ceramic (by the way, does anyone know where the Technical Spec sheet is, I tried finding to no avail) XPEL Prime XR Black Johnson Window Films InsulatIR IR GLOBAL WINDOW FILMS QDP CERAMIC FILMS Global OZ Window Films CBXtreme Ceramic -
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Why is my film sliding around in GCC Jag V Plotter?
Your film might be sliding around in your GCC Jaguar V plotter due to several reasons. Firstly, ensure that the film is loaded correctly and securely in the plotter's rollers. Check for any debris or dirt on the rollers that could cause slippage. Additionally, ensure that the plotter's settings, such as speed and pressure, are appropriate for the type of film you're using. Using a tackier or adhesive-backed film can also help prevent sliding. Lastly, make sure the plotter's firmware and software are up to date to avoid any compatibility issues that could lead to film slipping during plotting. -
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Cracked glass
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Automotive Tint Comparison
MEP Films distribute Llumar in Australia. I for one have been using Llumar since 1984 and have very rarely had or seen any issues with quality and that is why the brand is my go-to the majority of the time. Sun Tek have some good automotive films that I like, but other than those, I am strictly a Llumar user. BTW Eastman Chemical own both Llumar and SunTek so I imagine their film technology may be somewhat shared. -
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Better shop in Europe to buy Films and Tools?
Hi guys, Im new here and learning how to tint… I live in Europe and to find tools and tints to buy here is very difficult. I just got some tools and tint on this website: tintwrap.eu This website was the only one I could find some felt squeegee and high quality films with the best price to deliver in Europe without ripping me off. the delivery was quick, about 2 days. and the material was high quality as well. Do you guys have any other websites suggestions? Thanks -
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Paint Protection Film (PPF) is it needed or worth it?
I've never had PPF done before and never had issues with the paint on the car looking bad. I usually park in the garage and have had Kia Casa White - Solid on my Sportage since 2015 and no noticeable issues with the paintwork. The new car is Glacier White - Solid I've been told that PPF is beneficial, but very few people I know have actually opted to get it for their cars. I've been told there are many benefits such as: No need to ever wax or use sealant after the coat is applied Stops the paint fading Makes cars super easy to wash Prevents Acid Etching from animal contaminants, hard water spots, tree sap UV Rays Acid Rain (although I don't think I've ever seen acid rain) Repels Water & Grime Saves Water Will not wash off, crack or peel Non-abrasive Self-Healing Properties: repair minor surface scratches and swirl marks on their own when exposed to heat. So is this all simply marketing spin to provide another product to the market without any noticeable benefits? Does the average family car really need PPF or is this more the reserve of the show car, tuner set, car aficionado niche? Brands SystemX Australia Johnson Paint Protection 3M Cleargard Paint Protection Pro Series Film OMNI Nano-Ceramic Surface Coating 3M Scotchgard Paint Protection Film Pro Series Ceramic Coating Package Graphene Coating Package SunTek PPF OZ Paint Protection Film OZ Paint Protection Films GTechniq Ceramic Coatings Tint Haus 10H Ceramic Coating XPEL Ultimate Fusion Swissvax handmade wax range. Opticoat Pro Ceramic Pro 9H CQuartz Finest Pompanazzi Gtechniq Crystal Serum -
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Cracked glass
Follow up: Attached is the performance data for Johnson's Resi/Comm window films and if you look to the bottom you'll see DN50 has a solar absorption of 39%, which is well below the threshold of concern which is generally accepted as 50% absorption (with no shadow). With a straight line shading from the roof this does increase the risk, which is usually low for straight line shading compared to other types. I've also attached a pdf of Johnson's film-to-glass chart which is used to determine how safe a film is. The thicker the glass the higher the risk; you say 6mm tempered and 4mm is the cracked one (interior pane). The question now is what compass direction do these panels face? In the end, I'll just suggest you hook back up with the person that installed it and get his input. He had to have been comfortable suggesting that film. I still believe it's a one off cracked panel and the rest will be fine. It takes 2 seasonal cycles to know for sure. Truly your call as to whether or not to replace with something lighter such as DN60. Here's more helpful info that helps you question the glass type on the interior; is it plate or is it heat-strengthened (HS). I believe it is plate and not tempered or HS. Why? Plate glass with suffer thermal shock if the edge temperature is different than the center of the glass by 50 degrees F. Heat strengthened requires 100 degree F difference, and Tempered requires 200 degree F difference. Ryker chimed in and that stimulated further review. Good Luck with this. johnsonFilmToGlass_2021.pdf- 1
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Cracked glass
Whatever that glass is that cracked it is NOT tempered. DN 50 is pretty high solar absorption and your saying shadows too so you probably need a more reflective film.- 1
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